Need help picking new fantasy series to read

Loved Abercrombie's First Law Trilogy, I read them all back to back in about a week :)

Can't remember anything about the Briar King which doesn't bode well

Currently reading Locke Lamora so not really ready to comment but it starts well

Legend was a blast to read and not very long either, really liked it.

I enjoyed A Cavern of Black Ice but it isn't a fast paced book, it meanders along and from what I remember drags a little in places.

Absolutely love Magician but I read it when i was young so it holds sentimental value for me

Baker's The Darkness theat comes before is on my tbr pile so no comment yet and not read any Kushiel books

I guess I'd list them in the following order:-

The blade Itself - abercrombie
Legend - gemmell
Magician: apprentice - feist
A cavern of black ice - jones



the Briar King - keyes
 
Rather than rank them, I'll just toss in a few comments on the ones I've read so that you can make your own decisions, because I'm not sure what qualities you'd value or dislike.

I haven't read the Feist or the Jones; I only read about three chapters of the Keyes before tossing it (I don't recall it being grotesquely bad, just over-the-top and not brilliantly written, so not enough for me to get over a backstory that I thought was retarded), so I'll pass over those.

Kushiel's Dart -- I didn't finish this one, but read about half and will finish it at some point in the undetermined future. It is pleasantly written, far better than most fantasy novels, but not quite enough for me to call top-tier. The first-person narrator struck me as a bit of a Mary Sue with a masochistic streak, but not enough so to be really annoying. The novel's style is what I'd call the opposite of "gritty realism," even more so than GGK's work; everyone is clever, everyone is beautiful, at least in Terre d'Ange, and everyone not from Terre d'Ange is sort of pitiable and inferior.

Things that detracted from my enjoyment: a) author's setup of high-end courtesans' guilds is clearly based on wishful thinking rather than realism, research, or actually talking to anyone who does sex work; this is probably something that only I would find annoying, but I do, because it's one of those areas that writers consistently get wrong and in a novel that is all about high-end prostitution you'd think the author would do more homework; b) there's not a lot of narrative pull in the early chapters, which is partly because there's a long "development of the heroine" segment but even so I'd have liked a little more tension to keep me reading; c) waaaay too much reliance on the magical power of sex to make people blurt out information as a plot device. I know this may come as a shock, but clients don't, as a general rule, actually blurt out sensitive information in the company of call girls, much less do so consistently enough to make an entire book about it.

But overall, based on what I've read, I would consider this a good book and recommend it with some caveats that it's more of a fairytale set in a brothel than anything that even nods in the direction of realism.

The Darkness That Comes Before -- Started, didn't finish; was overwhelmed with pretentious self-important philosophical twaddle rather than, you know, an actual story. I hear this series just gets depressing later on, so I'm not especially motivated to keep jumping the story-breaking roadblocks.

Legend -- Started reading last night, am only halfway through. So far it's pretty awesome: well-written, funny, quick-moving. Gemmell hits a lot of the themes that he revisits in his later work, so it would probably seem repetitious if you read too many of his novels together, but taken on its own this is good stuff.

(I can't help wondering, though: if the invading army is so huge, why don't they just bypass the last-stand fortress and starve them out over the course of several years? The geography that makes this fortress Absolutely Crucial has not been established so far in the book, or else I missed it. Everyone just takes it as given that this will be a critical battleground and I'm like "but why? explain plz" and it isn't happening.)

The Blade Itself -- Many many people elsewhere in this forum will sing this novel's praises to the sky. I thought it was okay but not great, and haven't been motivated to pick up the later books in the series. I found the pacing off at several points, the characters unlikeable, and the plot occasionally puzzling. Finished the book not caring what happened to any of the people in it, and haven't seen much reason to find out. YMMV, obviously, or the book wouldn't have the following it does here, but I suspect dropping expectations to a human level is the best way to avoid disappointment.

Lies of Locke Lamora -- I liked this one a lot. It is a caper novel; it has all the requisite wisecracking and improbably devious plot twists and self-amused cleverness of that genre, and it is pulled off with panache. There is, however, more profanity in this book than if George Carlin rear-ended Lenny Bruce's car in hell, so be advised that Scott Lynch may make your dear old granny blush if you leave his book lying around.
 
I too am keeping my eyes peeled for a new fantasy series to start, I'm halfway through Crown of Stars currently, it's ok I suppose. I see alot of suggestions that are probably great reads here but i'm trying to limit my new series to ones where the whole series is available here in the US in mass market paperback. So that means no Lynch, Bakker, Martin, Erickson (too late, i've already read the first 5 books), Abercrombie, Jones, Sanderson or most of the authors that are discussed around here of which I am eagerly awaiting the completion of their series.

I've already read Feist, Hobb, some of Goodkind before becoming disgusted, early JV Jones, Tad Williams, obviously Tolkien. So what's out there for me?

Sanderson has one stand-alone that is available now (Elantris) and the third and final book in his Mistborn series is out in September. Abercrombie's series is complete right now, but if you are in the US, the final book is published by Pyr in September as well.

My recs would be Guy Gavriel Kay, who has two completed series (The Fionavar Tapestry and The Sarantine Mosaic) and several excellent stand-alones: The Lions of Al-Rassan, Tigana, A Song for Arbonne and The Last Light of the Sun; and Paul Kearney, who has a superb completed series (The Monarchies of God) and four very fine stand-alones (The Way to Babylon, Riding the Unicorn, A Different Kingdom and The Ten Thousand).

As for Lynch, whilst the first two books are stand-alones, later books in the series will become more serialised, apparently, and Book 3 relies on a lot of plot developments in Books 1 and 2.

As for Martin, whilst your criteria suggests you may want to avoid A Song of Ice and Fire for now, I would strongly suggest picking up his stand alones: Fevre Dream and The Armageddon Rag, most notably.
 
Conn Iggulden!!!!!!! he wrote four books on Caeser and currently has two on Ghengis. technically they are historical fiction but they are very good and well worth it.
 
I am not keen on Conn Iggulden. He isn't a very good writer and his Emperor series is so far removed from historical reality it may as well be alternative history.

If you do want to check out historical fiction there are much better authors around:

George MacDonald Fraser's Flashman series is excellent, about a roguish and cowardly British officer who due to extreme luck keeps coming out of crises festooned with acclaim and medals. The series spans most of the 19th Century and is incredibly faithful to history whilst telling damn good stories as well.

Bernard Cornwell's Warlord Chronicles is probably the definitive modern retelling of the King Arthur myth, contrasting history and mythology in a very believable manner.

David Gemmell's Troy Trilogy does something similar, but is even better-written and the shifting focus of the storyline between major figures and minor characters witnessing the events is very well done. He also has the best depiction of the 'Trojan Horse' (still one of the most dubious military tactics in history) I've ever heard of.
 
I am not keen on Conn Iggulden. He isn't a very good writer and his Emperor series is so far removed from historical reality it may as well be alternative history..

Yeah, I couldn't finish that one. I just know too much about the Romans and Caesar. :)

Another good historical fiction writer is Dorothy Dunnett. Her Lymond Chronicles are one fun ride with a charming rascal for a hero. The House of Niccolò books get even more acclaim, though I like Lymond better. She also wrote a MacBeth novel, King Hereafter.
 
Thanks for the ranking ChrisW.

Michigan your criteria is pretty strict. I doubt you will find may series that are completely finish and have all the books inprint(ie Black company). Authors have a tendency to just keep adding books to the series. You may end up waiting a long time to read some really good books. I have not read them and don't really plan to any time soon, but I think the Wheel of Time series meets your criteria.

I have read most of WOT, that's the problem, I started it back in 1996 and the series still isn't done. I kind of lost steam on that one though, haven't read the last couple. I also caved in and started Malazan, so i've read the first 5 of those books and have no idea when I will be able to finish the series. I have made a point not to read Martin because he is taking as long as Jordan did to write his books.
 
Sanderson has one stand-alone that is available now (Elantris) and the third and final book in his Mistborn series is out in September. Abercrombie's series is complete right now, but if you are in the US, the final book is published by Pyr in September as well.

My recs would be Guy Gavriel Kay, who has two completed series (The Fionavar Tapestry and The Sarantine Mosaic) and several excellent stand-alones: The Lions of Al-Rassan, Tigana, A Song for Arbonne and The Last Light of the Sun; and Paul Kearney, who has a superb completed series (The Monarchies of God) and four very fine stand-alones (The Way to Babylon, Riding the Unicorn, A Different Kingdom and The Ten Thousand).

As for Lynch, whilst the first two books are stand-alones, later books in the series will become more serialised, apparently, and Book 3 relies on a lot of plot developments in Books 1 and 2.

As for Martin, whilst your criteria suggests you may want to avoid A Song of Ice and Fire for now, I would strongly suggest picking up his stand alones: Fevre Dream and The Armageddon Rag, most notably.


Kay is another one of my favorites, i've read most of his stuff. I might have to check out Kearney and Martins other stuff though, thanks for the recommendation. I've heard some mixed reviews on Elantris, that's why I was staying away from it.
 
the darkness that comes before - Bakker


It would also help to know which of those titles are more adult themed(like GRRM, Erikson, or Stover).

Haven't read the other books you mentioned, but Bakker's PoN trilogy definitely falls in the adult category, and it's excellent.
 
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well u have read Eragon and i dunno if u have read the second book, Eldest but the third book should be out this summer so u can read that wen it comes out.
Other books i would recommend:
Twilight series- stephanie meyer
Inkheart trilogy- cornelia funke
bartimaeus trilogy- jonathan stroud
Echorium sequence- katherine roberts
i cant think of any others right now but they should keep u occupied for a while.
 
While we are on the topic of series to read, anyone have any insight on when The Prince Of Nothing is going to be available in the US in Mass Market Paperback?
 
As I understand it, no publisher has picked up the series for publication in MMPB. So I suppose the short answer to your question is "never," though I guess it could always change down the line. It just seems less likely as time moves on.
 
I second (or third or whatever) Scott Lynch, and I would also read The Prince of Nothing series and anything by Erikson
 
Lynch, Bakker, Abercrombie all very good indeed! Maybe even Patrick Rothfuss' The Name of The Wind? All quite adult (Bakker is the most adult, with Abercrombie following and then Lynch then Rothfuss... Imo)

Not sure if Lillybelle's suggestion will be of major use if you disliked Eragon! haha

Since you like Erikson maybe you could read the books that are also part of The Malazan world by Ian C Esslemont, the co creator. Night of Knives is the first one. I really enjoyed it! Very similar style to Eriksons which is good... The next book, Return of the Crimson Guard is out soonish i think. Although youve probably already heard of these and read them! haha! Also Eriksons Tales of Bauchilain and Corbal Broach? I havent read them but i immagine they are good!
 
Thanks again to everyone that posted

Good suggestions Birdie (at least I hope)! You pretty much suggested the reading order I decided to use.

While I was waiting for the used books from amazon to arrive I ended up reading THE NAME OF THE WIND. I enjoyed it, though it seemed to get progressively less interesting towards the end.

I wanted to read bakker first but it was the last to arrive. Instead I started with abercrombie. I am almost done with BEFORE THEY ARE HANGED. Looks like the 3rd book from abercrombie is not available tell september so I am going to be switching back to erikson when I finish book 2.

TOLL THE HOUNDS, and NIGHT OF KNIVES arrived in the mail yesterday. Cost me an arm and leg to get TOLL THE HOUNDS sent from the UK to seattle.

so I guess the winning reading order was:
THE NAME OF THE WIND
THE BLADE ITSELF
BEFORE THEY ARE HANGED
NIGHT OF KNIVES
TOLL THE HOUNDS
PRINCE OF NOTHING series

I am curious to see how legend is though it is yet to arrive.

Anyone know where Blood Follows, and The Healthy Dead can be found for a reasonable price?
 
Magician Apprentice

I would second or third Raymond E Feist, Begining with Magician Apprentice that starts off the rift war saga. IMHO it has evrything one could want in a fantasy story. And if you like the first book you can stay busy in Feist,s world of Midkemia for a good long while.
 
I would suggest reading "The Darkness That Comes Before" last. Basically because It is one of the best books out of the best trilogies of alltime. After you read this it will be hard to like anything else, because nothing will come close to this. It is definitely adult themed. I would rate it XXX
 
Hi everyone! I am brand new to this community, and looking for my next fix!

So here are some things I really loved, like five stars:

GRRM: Song of Ice and Fire Series
Patrick Rothfuss: The Name of the Wind
Guy G. Kay: Tigana (but didn't think much of Ysabel)
Marion Zimmer Bradley: Mists of Avalon

I liked but didn't love (3 1/2-4 stars):
Joe Abercrombie: The First Law Trilogy (some good characters and writing, but mostly centered on fighting)
Scott Lynch: Lies of LL and Red Seas
Kate Elliot/Robert Jordan: Crown of Stars (I really liked this series, but I have trouble with series that have over 5 or 6 books for some reason. I read the first five of The Wheel of Time also and then kind of lost interest).

Any recs would be very appreciated!
 

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