What order did you read these top books?

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Did you start out with the classics (below) or something more modern?
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Dune (Dune Chronicles, #1) by Frank Herbert
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Ender's Game (The Ender Quintet, #1) by Orson Scott Card
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The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, #1) by Douglas Adams
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1984 by George Orwell
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Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury
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Foundation (Foundation, #1) by Isaac Asimov
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Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
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Hyperion (Hyperion Cantos, #1) by Dan Simmons
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Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? by Philip K. Dick
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Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein
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I, Robot (Robot, #0.1) by Isaac Asimov
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2001: A Space Odyssey (Space Odyssey, #1) by Arthur C. Clarke
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The Foundation Trilogy (Foundation, #1-3) by Isaac Asimov
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Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut

Which did you read first? Which one was last? Any unread? Rec a good one to start with? One to ignore? Which might be considered the "most" sci-fi?
 
That's a pretty good list of classics, Bodhi. They're all a great place to start, but are quite different in their style and content.

My advice would be to read them all - no real order preferred. As a Heinlein fan though, Stranger is one of the stranger ones on the list. There are better Heinlein's out there.

Similarly, I like 2001, but there are better Clarke's out there too.

Slaughterhouse Five is odd, but I know people really like it.

IMO The Robot stories are a good place to start - they're relatively short - but they may have dated. If you like 'problem stories' though they're a great introduction.

Ender's Game's not a bad starter either.

Dune
took me a while, but once I got it, I really liked it. Hyperion's brilliant, and the series gets better. Androids is *nothing* like the Blade Runner movie. 1984 is a classic and one that bears repeated reading.

Think my favourite of all there, though, may be the Foundation series.

Hope this helps!

M.
 
Oops, forgot to answer.
I think I read in order: Ender's Game, Fahrenheit 451, 1984, Brave New World, Slaughterhouse Five, Dune, and others pieces of Dick's.
I'm going to go for Electric Sheep, Stranger Land or Hyperion next.

The most "sci-fi" was Dune or Ender's Game. I think Ender or Fahrenheit 451 are good to start with. Some might be able to skip Dune, which is pretty hardcore sci-fi, or Ender, which kinda relies on cheap tricks and doesn't have a lot of deeper themes. Been a while since I read F-451, but it might be skipped if you had your fill with the other dystopias. I don't remember it having a lot of "science". I almost though about saying you could pass on Slaughterhouse Five for being different, but it shows diversity and is just really good. I would not start with it, tho.

>Edit: Foundation. I had skipped over this because Asimov makes me think old and old makes me think of wrong science and slow pacing and gender cliches (but I actually loved some 50's shorts I found). The title also always felt bland and opaque, very neutral. I most look into it more.
 
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had skipped over this because Asimov makes me think old and old makes me think of wrong science and slow pacing and gender cliches
Well, don't forget, I am old. :)

But when I was first starting reading SF this was the sort of list I was recommended. That's not to say that there are others now more recent to add to the list, but it's pretty much where I started.

Later Edit: You may find what you say about Foundation to be true, Bodhi: there's very few women in the book for example! - but it is one against which a lot of more recent books are judged, still.

M.
 
I like some things I'm seeing. Pub date: '51, title comes from the name of an enlightened sanctuary on a planet, like the crumbling Roman Empire and the Dark Ages? High rating but top reviews both low (2 star)
 
OK: The general premise was inspired by Gibbons' Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire and a meeting between Asimov and the editor of Astounding Stories, John W. Campbell.

Don't be fooled by that 1951 date though - it was a fix-up novel, mainly made up of sections that had appeared in the pulp magazines (esp. Astounding/Analog) previously. Parts of it date to the 1940's. So you will find elements that are 'pulpy' and there's a lot of talk. But this is one of the differences between Foundation and other SF out there.

Whereas Doc Smith would send out a battlefleet of spaceships to annihilate the opposition, Asimov's Foundation works through discussion and clever out-thinking. The first three books get better as they go along, too. I always sympathised with the phrase "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." (From Part 2 The Mayors.)
 
First for me would have been The Hitchhicker's Guide. I was about nine when the radio play first aired on BBC Radio 4 and I definitely remember picking up a copy of the novelization about a year later when I was still in primary school. There was a while there, in the late 70s and early 80s, when you couldn't avoid HHGTTG in the UK with the radio play, transcripts, novels and the TV shows all within a few years.

Next would have been 1984, Fahrenheit 451 and Brave New World, all of which were read in English class at Grammar School (Age 12-16). I was lucky enough to have a fellow sci-fi fan as an English teacher. She introduced to me to Wyndham's The Chrysalids and The Day of the Triffids, too.

It was about this time that I took my first crack at Dune, a copy in the school library, but I never finished it. Took a few more unsuccessful tries over the next few years until I finally finished it and now, ironically, I probably regard it as one of the greatest. I guess I just wasn't ready for it as a teen.

The Asimov and the Clarke are a little trickier to place. Clarke's anthology 'Of Time and Stars' was one of the very first sci-fi books I bought through a school book club (Puffin books, if anyone remembers them) aged seven and I had certainly read everything that both he and Asimov had published by the end of my teens, I Robot and Foundations most definitely included but here's the odd thing, looking back now I'm not sure that I ever read the 2001 novelization although I certainly did read 'The Lost Worlds of 2001' at that time. Funnily enough 'Of Time and Stars' contained the two short stories 'The Sentinel' and 'Encounter at Dawn' which provided the original inspiration for 2001.

Stranger in a Strange Land, then, sometime in my mid-teens. I had grown up reading Heinlein's juvenile novels and then moved on to his more adult work. I had enjoyed 'Time Enough for Love', for all of its many faults and so decided to give Stranger a try. No. Just no.

Ender's Game next, late teens, shortly after it was first published. Loved it. Sequels, not so much. Orson Scott Card has this weird ability to hook me with his first book and then completely lose me by the end of a series. He did it with Ender's Game. He did it with Seventh Son and he did it with the Memory of Earth.

Slaughterhouse Five and Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep I probably read sometime in my twenties in those times when I felt that I ought to read some 'classics'. Maybe I had been avoiding Androids for a while because I adored Bladerunner and knew that it wasn't going to be the same. I'm afraid that I've never had a good reading relationship with Dick, just not my cup of tea.

Hyperion came last. For some reason I never discovered it until the hardcover release of 'Rise of Endymion' in '97 (I was 28 for those keeping score). I was working in London at the time and making my weekly pilgrimage to the Forbidden Planet bookstore when the image of the Shrike on the cover caught my eye and I ended up buying the whole Cantos and binge reading them over the weekend.

Looking back now I'd say the best to start with would be 'Foundation', the one to ignore would be 'Stranger in a Strange Land' and the "most sci-fi" (whatever that means) would be Dune.
 
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Nice post, Jim.
It was about this time that I took my first crack at Dune, a copy in the school library, but I never finished it. Took a few more unsuccessful tries over the next few years until I finally finished it and now, ironically, I probably regard it as one of the greatest. I guess I just wasn't ready for it as a teen.
Same here, except mine was a PB copy borrowed from my Dad. And having just reread Dune Messiah and completely revised my view on it, I can only agree with that last part. I knew that rereads of Dune worked, I'm now thinking I should've read Dune Messiah again sooner.

Of that list I think 2001 was the first I read, at school, though we also read 1984 and Brave New World there as well. I had already hit the Heinlein's hard by this stage as well and had read most of them by this point, especially the juveniles. Hitchhiker I was about 15 and heard the radio show first (1978-79?) Then The Robot Stories & Foundation, both borrowed from Dad. Dune was when I was in Sixth Form , and the rest were all about then. Hyperion was the last on that list for me, in the 1990's.
 
As a Heinlein fan though, Stranger is one of the stranger ones on the list.
The runners-up were Starship Troopers, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, and The Puppet Masters (distant 3rd)
 
The runners-up were Starship Troopers, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, and The Puppet Masters (distant 3rd)
All three of those are better than Stranger, in my opinion.

Starship
divides readers with its pro-war stance, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress seems to be one that has remained popular (once you can get used to his style of narrative in the book.). My reread review of Puppet Masters is HERE.
 
I much prefer your runners-up list to 'Stranger in a Strange Land', although I think you're being a little harsh on 'The Puppet Masters', it's one that I go back to often. One more that I'd add to that list is 'Methuselah's Children'. 'Stranger' only looks good when you start to compare it to the embarrassing work he produced in his final years* such as 'The Number of the Beast' and 'The Cat Who Walks through Walls' of which the less said, the better.

*Except 'Friday'. I liked 'Friday'. Sue me.
 
#100 The Puppet Masters
#294 Methuselah's Children
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I didn't make up this list, I just wanted some well-formed opinions about reading order, omissions, etc.
People usually hear about the popular ones first, Ender was really popular in the 90's among my age group – started there. 1984 has such a prominent place in our culture, obviously picking up that one. Fahrenheit 451 (and Slaughterhouse Five?) required reading by the official education system. Dune always in the back of my mind, finally picked it up to get back into SF. Brave New World discovered from reviews after finishing 1984 (better? smarter?)
 
Interesting to see that Clarke's 'Childhoods End' ranks 5 places below '2001' when it is much the superior novel, imho, and that probably is due to the wider public knowledge of 2001 because of the movie. Even though Hollywood has more that once used 'Childhood's End' for its own inspiration. I'm thinking of 'Independence Day' and 'V' specifically.

That 'The City and the Stars' only ranks at 91 should be regarded as a crime against humanity.
 
What Jim said. The City and The Stars is probably my favourite book from a favourite author. I suspect that the prominence of a few of these on the list are not due to the book alone, but based on what people think having seen/heard film versions/radio adaptations of the books as well.
 
My opinion, but I don't think Dune belongs near first place. It has a saggy middle, a rushed ending, and overblown dialogue. No one should start with Dune. It's all about the planets and politics, destiny and stratospheric spiritual ascent. The characters are relate-able but so superpowered and royalty-licious that beginner's looking for character-driven stories should look elsewhere.

Why is Vonnegut's book "odd"? Is it just the least "sci-fi" with its conventions?
 
I don't think I read most of those until I'd already reached adulthood - I didn't go back to the classics until I was in my early 20s when I had more money, easier access to second-hand bookshops and had exhausted the SF collection I inherited when younger. My first introduction to the classics were Anne McCaffrey's Pern books and Niven's Ringworld - actually, they were more or less my first introductions to adult SF and the early Pern books are SF/fantasy crossovers anyway. Basically, dragons in one and a big toy in the other were concepts I could understand (I was fairly young when introduced to them, maybe around 9 or 10).

Of the list, the three I remember reading before adulthood were the following (I think 2001 was the first of them but I haven't a great deal of confidence in that): Dune, 2001 (and subsequently 2010 and 2061) and Stranger In A Strange Land. I can't really remember when I read them and what I thought of them (other than Stranger being somewhat bland and that it should have finished a good 100 pages before it did - which was reinforced when I went back to it a few years ago and threw it into the charity shop box immediately after finishing it), but it would have been somewhere in the 13-15 age range. I remember coming across C J Cherryh's Downbelow Station around this period as well and liking it more than any of those, although Dune grew on me as I got older and reread it.

I admit I don't remember when I came across Hyperion. I have a feeling it was in my late teens, as I do remember seeing it on the shelves for at least a couple of years before I bought a copy, and I didn't look at the sequels for several years afterwards.

Hitchhiker's Guide I was introduced to when some repeats of the television series were shown (I don't remember exactly when). I didn't go near the books until I was around 23 or 24, although I read Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency as a teenager. I'm not sure I'd use it as an introductory novel for science fiction, as although they're fun, I'd suggest the first two Red Dwarf novels as better options if you want to ease someone in via comedy SF (although that may be particular to my age group as I grew up with the TV show - used to sneak downstairs as a kid, hide behind the sofa and peek round to watch it because it was after bedtime).

The rest were all (with one exception) read during my early to mid-20s - 1984 and Fahrenheit 451 were bought new with a gift voucher because I decided I had to read them, everything else was a second-hand find, in individual volumes excluding Electric Sheep which was in a single volume also containing The Three Stigmata Of Palmer Eldritch, Martian Time-Slip, Ubik and A Scanner Darkly - not a bad find for £3. The one exception was Slaughterhouse 5 - I've still never read it and don't currently have any plans to do so (the only Vonnegut novel I've read was The Sirens Of Titan and it disagreed with me, although I can't explain why I disliked it to the extent that I did)

I'm not sure which I would recommend to new readers - at the risk of stating the obvious, it is too dependent on current reading habits and their general age group. I feel that Dune and Hyperion are better options if someone is familiar with fantasy (they could be argued to be "space fantasy" in a sense themselves); Ender's Game may work for younger readers (I was in my 20s when I read it though so that's not something I can speak from experience about); I'd pick Brave New World over 1984 and Fahrenheit 451 for the classic dystopias as I thought it worked best as a novel (despite 1984 being the one whose terms have seeped into general consciousness) although it feels a little dated; and 2001 (along with 2010 and 2061 - I didn't like 3001 and felt it was an unnecessary extension of the series) for people who just want to read about people in space. I wouldn't ever recommend Stranger In A Strange Land to anyone if they haven't read it because I don't think it's a very interesting book - either Heinlein's juveniles as an introduction to SF (though a lot of them are dated) or as mentioned earlier in this thread, Starship Troopers or The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress (the latter being my favourite Heinlein novel as the lead character is surprisingly engaging once you get past the narrative style) are far stronger options.

*Except 'Friday'. I liked 'Friday'. Sue me.

So did I - I felt that Friday actually had a relatively interesting world and a reasonably engaging plot - it was preachy (as all Heinlein apart from the juveniles are, and even then there are undertones of preachiness...), but I also thought it was quite an enjoyable book. As for my opinion of the other late Heinleins... basically a vehicle to express his admiration for incest and an attempt to tie as many old books into one multiverse as possible.
 
( I have a signed copy of Friday.)

Mind you, I've also got a signed 2001 and a signed Hyperion and a signed Foundation Trilogy. Very pleased with those.
 
Of those, I read Brave New World first, as I really was obsessed with Huxley as a young teenager, and read most of his books then.

Next, I read Slaughterhouse Five and Fahrenheit 451 while I was in high school.

In general it's a funny list for me, because most of them are books I've read solely because it was getting sort of embarrassing that I hadn't read them yet. So: I, Robot, Foundation, Stranger, Do Androids Dream, 2001, and 1984 I read all at once about 10 years ago, having read sci fi for many years but having not read those 'classics.' But I'd already read other by those authors, just not those books.

I've started but never finished Hitchhiker's, and Dune (neither is really my thing).

Read Enders in 2011, during the first month I moved to the U.S. and was driving coast to coast.

And still not read Hyperion, because I've always been put off by the medieval/quest type trappings...I suspect that is silly, and that when I finally read it, I will actually love it.

I think, of the ones you posted, I'd recommend Brave New World first, not because I read it first haha, but because it's better than1984 I think but a similar literary kind of style that new readers of SF would probably not find too off putting.

I'd skip Stranger too...eugh, I can't stand that book.

Most sci-fi: hmmmm, I'm not sure. In its own way, I suspect Do Androids Dream is the most acquired taste, and would be the most off putting to readers used to other stuff, since it has that pulpy disregard for character and frantic PKDick pace; people used to fantasy would probably be fine with Dune, others less so.
 
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What Jim said. The City and The Stars is probably my favourite book from a favourite author. I suspect that the prominence of a few of these on the list are not due to the book alone, but based on what people think having seen/heard film versions/radio adaptations of the books as well.

I love The City and the Stars, and if I was choosing a classic book to give someone starting to read SF, that would be a great choice.
 

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