King Arthur - Which author(s) should i read!!

As an aside, if you want to look at the growth of the legend and the historical background of Arthur then Mike Ashley's The Mammoth Book of King Arthur is a good one. It is more of a historical reference book than a novel, though.

Yes, I just bought that one, very good.

There's also John Matthews' "King Arthur"Dark Age hero" which I highly recommend, also non-fiction.
 
feeling stupid

I'm going to ask a question that might be seen as stupid.

Was Arthur actually a real king or person? Is it all myth and legend? And if there was a real Arthur, where do the real facts end and the legends start?

Appreciate it if anyone can clear it up for me.
 
I'll refer you back to that Mammoth Book of King Arthur I mentioned above, pennywise.

Mike Ashley has tried to summarise the whole idea of King Arthur by drawing together the various historical references to a King Arthur, as well as show the influence of people like Malory in popularising the myth/s.

There's not an easy answer, but from what I can see this is a good try to link the various Arthurs of myth and history together. (I haven't finished reading it myself yet, though I'm learning quite a bit as I go along. :) )

So far it seems that there were a number of Arthurs....

Hobbit
 
Everything has pretty much been mentioned except Guy Gavriel Kay's Fionvair Trilogy, the Penguin guide to Arthur myths and finally I seem to remember a book called the Forever King, which was written by two authors (Morgan Lockley????) and had to do with reincarnation.
 
OOh - thank you Butterfly. I've read that one - and forgotten it!

It was by Molly Cochran and Warren Murphy.

Reminded me a lot of the film Highlander when I read it, early 1990's. Basically, it was about the return of King Arthur in a contemporary setting. His enemy was Saladin, I think? Merlin was in there too.

Can't remember much else other than it was OK, but not the best book I've ever read. I've got a weird idea of Jack the Ripper being involved, but I could be wrong. There were sequels but they never impressed me much to continue.

Hobbit
 
Pretty sure Alex Irvine's newest, One King, One Soldier is a retelling of the Arthur myth....unless I'm just remembering incorrectly.
 
More what-if fantasy than secret history like his well-received debut, A Scattering of Jades (2002), Irvine’s literate second novel asks some provocative questions: What if centuries of retellings of ancient myths actually convey disguised truths? What if the Holy Grail was really a piece of the Ark of the Covenant? What if the Grail controls much of human history? In 1953, wounded Korean War vet Lance Porter meets poet Jack Spicer in San Francisco. Spicer sees Lance as the Fisher King, destined to regain the Grail, heal himself and restore the land. The poet tells Lance he’s "a serious monkey wrench in a very old plan" involving the Grail. Nothing in his life is as it seemed and people want him dead. Two subplots involve barnstorming baseball player George Gibson, who becomes the bearer of the Grail and undertakes a journey across Africa, and Arthur Rimbaud, past his days as a youthful poet and now a gunrunner in Africa. Irvine mixes myth, history, baseball, poetry, several belief systems and clear prose for an enchanting read. Sketchy characterizations are more symbolic than substantial, but they don’t distract from the magic of the tale

More a re-using of the Grail Legend I think.

For a loose collection of Arthurian short stories, check out the Mammoth book of Arthurian Legends by Ahsley or his "Chronicles of the Round Table".
 
Hobbit said:
OOh - thank you Butterfly. I've read that one - and forgotten it!

It was by Molly Cochran and Warren Murphy.

Reminded me a lot of the film Highlander when I read it, early 1990's. Basically, it was about the return of King Arthur in a contemporary setting. His enemy was Saladin, I think? Merlin was in there too.

Can't remember much else other than it was OK, but not the best book I've ever read. I've got a weird idea of Jack the Ripper being involved, but I could be wrong. There were sequels but they never impressed me much to continue.

Hobbit

Thats it, gosh I was a little off wasn't I?? I had to go find it myself because it bugged me for the rest of the evening. On the cover of the book I have, it has a recommendation from Robert Jordan of all people.
Yep Merlin was in it, the enemy was Saladin and also Jack the Ripper was mentioned. I never realised that there was sequels I just put it away, not really interested in finding more.
It stuck in my head because of the main character's reincarnation.
 
my sister bought me a book called languege of the stones by robert carter any thoughts? worth reading?
 
I must admit inactorz, I've had it in the 'pile to read' for quite a while now, and still not got round to reading it.

I've heard it's quite good but can't say any more on it, I'm afraid - other than there is now a sequel in the UK called The Giant's Dance, set in the 15th century. Oh, and Terry Jones (he of Monty Python, and a historian) seemed to like it.

Anyone else actually read it?

(And butterfly - apologies. It's usually me who ends up having to go and hunt around on these things. :) )

Hobbit
 
pennywise86 said:
I'm going to ask a question that might be seen as stupid.

Was Arthur actually a real king or person? Is it all myth and legend? And if there was a real Arthur, where do the real facts end and the legends start?

Appreciate it if anyone can clear it up for me.

Arthur can be agrued is based on some figures in history, such as, General Aurolious(sp?). There is a "history" of Arthur written by an ancient historian called Geoffrey of Monmouth(Sp?), which tries to authenticate the true Arthur and his kingdom. Here is a link with more books with a more historical look at King Arthur:http://www.britannia.com/history/h12.html
 
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Hobbit said:
(And butterfly - apologies. It's usually me who ends up having to go and hunt around on these things. :) )

Hobbit

Nah, thats okay. It gave me an excuse to look into a very old chest, to see what I was reading about 10-15years ago. :) Very strange collection I have to admit.
In said chest I also found another Arthur-centric book by Tim Powers, called the Drawing of the Dark, which funny enough also deals with reincarnation.
 
I'm reading Diana Paxson's The White Raven though not about Artur, it still has alot Arturian things about it.
 
Priestvyrce said:
There is a "history" of Arthur written by an ancient historian called Geoffrey of Monmouth(Sp?), which tries to authenticate the true Arthur and his kingdom.
That is certainly one of, if not the, oldest Arthurian fantasies. There are earlier records of Arthur, but Geoff was the first to write it all up. Just don't take it for true! :)
 
I've been reading the book I mentioned above, Mike Ashley's mammoth Arthurian handbook, and it is very interesting.

For instance he lists many of the Arthurian stories to have been released in teh last century, and narrows it down quite a bit. He also marks those which he thinks should be part of the basic Arthurian library. He includes:

* The Once and Future King ( though he points out some valid criticisms of that work)
* The Merlin Trilogy by Stewart ( one of his favorites and mine, which he credits with renewing people's interest in Arthurian stories).
* The Pendragon cycle by Lawhead
* The Warlord Trilogy by Cornwell
* Mists of Avalon by Bradley
* Firelord by Godwin
* Sword at Sunset by Sutcliffe
 
Jack Whyte's Dream of Eagles series is my favourite version out of what I've sampled (which is admittedly limited). It's more of a historical fiction than a fantasy though. I think the point was to put forward a somewhat plausible example of what could have happened that would have led to the legends about Arthur that we know today.
 
Another interesting book that Ashley mentions is " Pendragon" by Douglas Carmichael.

http://www.amazon.com/Pendragon-Dou...6372860?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1190796107&sr=1-1

I've been reading a bit of this and it is well-written, with a very interesting Merlin, which is always important to me. It features the first five years of Arthur's reign and has sidestories about Lancelot and Tristan, as well as a few more.
 

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