Twilight - Stephenie Meyer

Is there any other supernatural stuff in the Twilight series besides Werewolves and Vampires? Any other mythological or folklore-based events/characters/occurrences?

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I believe there may be some mention of witchcraft and related folklore, but vampires and werewolves are pretty much it for supernatural creatures in the series.
 
yea there are mentions of witchcraft but if you want a manner of all supernatural books by Kim Harrison are good as they mention allsorts
for example vampires, witches, werewolves, demons, ghosts, gentically modified tomatoes and pixies, gargoyles, elves, faeries.
 
AllegraBeloved said:
yea there are mentions of witchcraft but if you want a manner of all supernatural books by Kim Harrison are good as they mention allsorts
for example vampires, witches, werewolves, demons, ghosts, gentically modified tomatoes and pixies, gargoyles, elves, faeries.
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Cool! Yeah that's kind of what I was looking for...are there other "were" animals? Like not werewolves but maybe werecats or werebears or something?
 
JebStryke said:
Cool! Yeah that's kind of what I was looking for...are there other "were" animals? Like not werewolves but maybe werecats or werebears or something?
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Nope, not in these books. If you looking for werecats, check out Christine Feehan's Wild Rain series. She also has a dark series on vampires. They are somewhat romance books, but there is action and drama in these books.
 
You should know before reading Twilight that the supernatural creatures in it are not true to lore and are instead PG, neutered, Mormon versions. I mean, the vampires sparkle. SPARKLE.

If you're reading Twilight for a supernatural book involving vampires, don't. It's an adolescent romantic fantasy involving stereotyped characters and the most trite Mary Sue in modern fiction. And it's also very offensive in the depiction of love which is more like an abusive, stalker, rape-type scenario.
 
True to lore???? Please, vampire lore at this point means do anything you want with them, including making them sparkle, or, as in a much loved children series, Bunnicula, making them a rabbit. The Twilight series is a romantic YA series about a teenage girl who is vaulted into adulthood by her love for a vampire and her friendship with a Native American werewolf. The main character is not Mormon, although the author is, and the Mormon religion does not come into the stories. And while, yes, her boyfriend has to turn down the impulse to eat her, she pretty much stalks him, and nobody rapes anyone. Other than presenting vampirism as a form of prettifying psychosis, Meyer commits no crimes, and it's hardly the first time that vampirism has been presented as prettifying psychosis. In fact, that's something of a tradition. That she went all Romeo and Juliet is hardly the first time someone wanted to try it, but her readers like her characters.

If you want prettified psychotic vampires in more adult-geared stories, there are plenty of them out there, and such series tend to move from vampires and weres into elves, zombies, witches, voodoo priestesses, fairy sprites, dragons, etc. Some are bestsellers -- Charlaine Harris, Laurell K. Hamilton, Kelley Armstrong, Kim Harrison, Patricia Briggs, Jim Butcher, Tim Pratt and Charlie Houston, because large groups of readers like their characters. There are also older series or books like Anne Rice's. Guillermo Del Toro took time out from his film schedule to hire Chuck Hogan to help him write The Strain, which no doubt will be a vampire film, game, breakfast cereal sometime soon. If you are interested in other YA series, there are quite a few that have vampires, weres, zombies, etc., ranging, as the adult fare does, from comic to horror.

Vampirism is open season. The only one who used the "lore" was Bram Stoker's Dracula, and even he threw out what mythology he didn't want and came up with Renfield. So just relax. It's not like they're real and going to file a complaint. :)
 
Yeah, I'm afraid I can't take the whole idea that there's some sort of corpus of vamp lore, -- or zombie lore, or werebeast lore, or whatever else, -- which must be adhered to when writing about them very seriously. Sure there are some traditions, [garlic etc], which multiple depictions have employed, but as CatG says authors and other storytellers twist or ignore these and always have. You didn't see the vamps in Buffy the Vampire Slayer getting all fussy about garlic, and that's one of the best, deepest texts to include vampires I've ever encountered. Besides, we are talking here about speculative fiction. Is it not a good thing when authors reinterpret lore, or turn it on its head? When they, in other words, do something creative and fantastical? The sparkly doesn't particularly work for me either, but it's an aesthetic choice and some people groove on it.

Could it be that what you object to is not so much that the vamps in Twilight do not adhere to some sort of imagined bloodsucking canon which does not exist, but rather that they do not appear to build up much in the way of a robust lore of their own?

I have big, big humungous issues with Meyer's novels, starting with the female protagonist's infuriating passivity and lack of self-reliance. I find the series's love-conquers-all-and-you-don't-need-to-get-a-job attitude mildly insidious, [and no this is not something I would carp on normally, -- people should read what they please, -- but the shere number of teens the books reach makes it an issue, I think.] But the vamp lore thing is not among my beefs, because I don't think it's a fair criticism.

And Bunnicula is awesome.
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terminus est said:
You should know before reading Twilight that the supernatural creatures in it are not true to lore and are instead PG, neutered, Mormon versions. I mean, the vampires sparkle. SPARKLE.

If you're reading Twilight for a supernatural book involving vampires, don't. It's an adolescent romantic fantasy involving stereotyped characters and the most trite Mary Sue in modern fiction. And it's also very offensive in the depiction of love which is more like an abusive, stalker, rape-type scenario.
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So what if the vampires sparkle when in the sun. Nice to have a different spin on things. It's a teenage love story. How gruesome should it be for young adults? There was no abusive or rape-type scenario, unless your talking about Edward saving Belle from some guys in the city, as to which nothing happened anyway. As for a stalker, I don't see where that plays in, except for Belle's fascination for Edward, and I wouldn't call that stalking.
 
also the inheritance saga in eragon and eldest and a mention of it in brisingr as well there are werecats
 
yea i mean he wants her to be safe as he cares for her, thats not what a stalker would do. he knows that she is a danger magnet and cares if she should get hurt why else would he go to all that trouble to protect her?
 
I put off reading these for the longest time, because I did not like the basis for the story. I am not really into YA fiction anymore, although I will admit that I enjoyed most of the Harry Potter books.

After reading all four of them, I was extremely disappointed. I think because I have no taste for teen romance, I couldn't get into them. Harry Potter was geared for all ages, literally. My mom even read them, but put them down once Catholic Radio told her they were sinful. Ugh. But either way, even adults could thoroughly enjoy them. I am not going to make the statement that no adults will like Twilight, but I have a hunch that many will feel like they are back in high school, and not in a good way.

Something that really bothers me is the praise Meyer is getting for her excellent writing. Am I the only one that thinks she her vocabulary is redundant, and her descriptions far from detailed? Sure, her story moves fast and grabs you in right away, but compared to Harry Potter, I think her writing falls short. Very short. Bella is even more obnoxiously irritating than Harry became, and the worst is she is whiny from the start. If I knew a girl like her in high school, I would have avoided her at all costs. Not to mention, the movie was terrible as well, but I won't even go into that.

Many of my friends claim they will reread them again and again and that it is worthy of a top 10 spot in fantasy/horror novels. I completely and utterly disagree. I will not reread them, and the rumor that Meyer is rewriting the series from Edward's point of view makes me gag. I will not say they are horrible books, because for the most part I enjoyed the story, and if I read all four of them, something had to keep me going. However, I don't plan on returned to them again, and I am very happy I borrowed them instead of buying them. As for top 10, I don't think any aspect of the series is close to being considered for that recognition. But, a million or more people love her, so my opinion does not really matter.
 
Everyone has their own opinion on these books. It's not for everyone, some will like it, some will not. But that is the nature of all books of all genre's. For me it was a fast read, down a different path of what vampires and wearwolves are generally portrade. Sure it's not the best book on the planet, but it's not the worst book either. It's geared toward teens. As adults we read or see the characters differently and the way situations are handled by the characters, then teens reading the book.
 
LionessAzhure said:
To be fair- 'I like watching you sleep'...is just a tad stalker-ish :p
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As is reading other peoples' minds in order to try and find out about Bella. Watching a girl through other peoples' eyes seems pretty similar to installing cameras to monitor a person's movements.
 
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