A story without a main character.... will it work? How do I make it work?

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I am currently reading a book about how to structure a successful book/movie script and the author Larry Brooks emphasizes that to have a successful story you need to make the story about a main character - a hero. Do you think this is the case or are there some examples of stories that break away from this model and are still very effective?

The goal is to make a story that centers on a more worldwide issue and that jumps around to many different characters and times in history if possible.

My story is probably more suited to a documentary in a lot of ways but for other reasons I feel it's better to try to tell what is going on as a dramatic story to try to keep people interested while learning a lot of dry information.
 
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Well, I suppose the most famous one might be Stephen King's The Stand. I haven't read it myself, but what I do know of it, and from watching the TV mini-series of it, I think it has no real central character that the entire plot revolves around. I think George R. R. Martin's stuff also fits the bill. Someone could argue the case for Glen Cook's Dread Empire series as well. The best place for examples, though, might be the comic book industry. Superhero teams like the Avengers or the X-Men are very spread out in their character focus. Could you ever say that there is one single main character in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? Not bloody likely.

There are plenty of epic fantasies out there that have such huge casts that they effectively fall in this category, even when they do have a central main character. Lord of the Rings for instance has such a huge cast and wide scope that it's difficult to call Frodo THE hero, even if he is the most important of the bunch. Other characters like Gandalf and Strider get their own moments to shine, too.

What all of these thing wind up doing is jumping from one character to another, and you root for each of them in turn. They all have heroes, it's just that there are a lot of them rather than one central figure. So you could argue that there really is a main character, and that during each character's POV sequences, that character acts in the same way that a single main character would. That's basically how to pull it off. Multiple main characters and a cyclical POV.
 
Thanks Stephen. It seems a lot of those stories are action oriented - comics - Lord of the Rings too. Maybe that's the trick.

What I am trying to do really is to turn online research into a movie.. not Only show historical things... but teach people science as well. What I am imagining may be impossible.. at least for someone who is not a real writer like myself.
 
A book needs its hero, so someone/something will become one.
Igor
 
Malazan Book of the Fallen

Don't think you can get a better example than that, at least a successful one. There are essentially main characters within each book. But it's a large series, and there is no main character to the series itself. The world is the main character.
 
Malazan Book of the Fallen

Don't think you can get a better example than that, at least a successful one. There are essentially main characters within each book. But it's a large series, and there is no main character to the series itself. The world is the main character.

I can't think of any other example that has so many major characters as the MBOF series. Chris777 is completely correct in this. MBOF doesn't have a main character... it is more like the readers have their favorite characters.
 
I am currently reading a book about how to structure a successful book/movie script and the author Larry Brooks emphasizes that to have a successful story you need to make the story about a main character - a hero. Do you think this is the case or are there some examples of stories that break away from this model and are still very effective?

The goal is to make a story that centers on a more worldwide issue and that jumps around to many different characters and times in history if possible.

My story is probably more suited to a documentary in a lot of ways but for other reasons I feel it's better to try to tell what is going on as a dramatic story to try to keep people interested while learning a lot of dry information.

Are you trying to write a screenplay or a novel? Screenplays have format constraints. They have to be done in a certain way to be translatable for crews and they have to fit a visual medium that is based entirely on images and sounds, and they have all sorts of time constraints. There are ways to get around some of those constraints for some stories and there are screen works that are not about heroes, but there are a limited number of structures for theatric stories, even narrative documentaries.

Novels have none of these structural constraints. Novels are not limited to visual and auditory input and may be considerably abstract. Novels have no time constraints, budget, tech and scope constraints. A novel has no "acts" -- bundles of scenes, although it can borrow those structures if it wants. Many novels are not about heroes -- a hero and a protagonist are not the same thing. A novel may cover thousands of years and a lot of characters and are frequently not linear in timeframe. Novels are long pieces of fictional text. As such, novels may be made up of episodic, connected stories, multiple stories set in the same universe, multiple stories set in different universes, etc.

So it seems that you have a book that is explaining how to do one type of story structure, which may be of particular use in writing screenplays for film. But that won't necessarily fit what you are doing.

Non-fiction does often make use of anecdote, analogies and fictional examples to present factual information. A fictional framework of two characters who discuss the factual information in a documentary has been a popular format for documentaries, especially educational ones for schools. (Let Bugs Bunny or My Little Pony teach you physics!) So an actual novel or a fictional screenplay narrative format may not be necessary for what you want to do, even if you use a non-real narrator, dramatizations, speculative skits, etc. to create mini stories to convey non-fiction information. And some non-fiction stories, such as memoirs, convey both facts and real life stories that can be just as effective or more than fictional ones, and that is often used for history information.

Or you can do a fictional story that has a lot of facts in it. People do that. But if your goal is not to do a heroic narrative, then there's not much point in throwing one into it.
 
The City by Stella Gemmell is an excellent example of this. It follows multiple characters but they are used to illustrate the state of the City, which is what the story is about. It worked really well. I enjoyed all the characters, but at the end of the book when I looked at the story lines, it was the City and the City's story that really stood out more than any individual.
 
Sorry to everyone for taking so long to respond. I thought this thread had died.

Are you trying to write a screenplay or a novel?

Thanks for the great response, KatG. I am actually thinking about doing a graphic novel.. but it has been a while since I have drawn so I hope it comes back to me.

This is all theoretical though so I hope it works.. I am trying to become a writer out of necessity.. it will take me too long to explain to anyone what I want to write.

Another problem with my story is that the parts of it seem unconnected... you have to look at the whole picture to see how they are connected... so it is very tricky to figure out how to make a coherent story out of it all. Plus there are many gaps in the story... so I have to figure out a way to fill the gaps and make it entertaining.. yet not go too far to make it seem implausible because I am trying to convince people this is all real.

It's like an immense mystery and I have found big pieces of the puzzle but there are still many unanswered questions...
 
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The City by Stella Gemmell is an excellent example of this. It follows multiple characters but they are used to illustrate the state of the City, which is what the story is about. It worked really well. I enjoyed all the characters, but at the end of the book when I looked at the story lines, it was the City and the City's story that really stood out more than any individual.

That sounds like an interesting one, CatOfThecanals. Thanks!
 
Sorry to everyone for taking so long to respond. I thought this thread had died.



Thanks for the great response, KatG. I am actually thinking about doing a graphic novel.. but it has been a while since I have drawn so I hope it comes back to me.

This is all theoretical though so I hope it works.. I am trying to become a writer out of necessity.. it will take me too long to explain to anyone what I want to write.

Another problem with my story is that the parts of it seem unconnected... you have to look at the whole picture to see how they are connected... so it is very tricky to figure out how to make a coherent story out of it all. Plus there are many gaps in the story... so I have to figure out a way to fill the gaps and make it entertaining.. yet not go too far to make it seem implausible because I am trying to convince people this is all real.

It's like an immense mystery and I have found big pieces of the puzzle but there are still many unanswered questions...

Graphic novels have some structural constraints but not some of the ones for screenplays. Writing any kind of story for income is dicey. But you might be able to do some non-fiction article publishing while you are working on your fiction. You might, in the graphic novel area, want to look at Building Stories by Chris Ware, Watchmen by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons, Are You My Mother? by Alison Bechdel, Blankets by Craig Thompson, Dungeon series by Joann Sfar & Lewis Trondheim, Ravine by Stjepan Sejic & Ron Marz, and Fables, which my daughter loves, by Bill Willingham. Graphic novels are well set up to tell a sprawling story with lots of characters and different time/locales. It's essentially what comics companies do as a whole, and so readers are used to those structures.

Good luck with it, however it goes.
 
Thanks so much KatG. I have been reading Watchmen a lot. It's the closest thing I can find that I think could be a kind of vague template for what I need to do. Also, this isn't really for money.. if I can make something off of it to support myself for all the time I have put into it great but I may end up giving it away for free to the people who can't afford it or if it isn't done well enough to get much interest. I just hope to get this info out.

Thanks for the other books too.. I am looking for anything and everything to get ideas.
 
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The Malazan Book of the Fallen is a great example, but the first story I thought of when reading the post title was George R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire (which also exemplifies how several characters can be the main character depending on whether we're in their chapter or not). Ask a number of fans who the hero of the story is and you'll probably get most answers claiming Jon Snow, but there will also be arguments for, say, Bran Stark, Tyrion Lannister, even Jaime Lannister, Daenerys Targaryen, Eddard Stark, Ser Davos Seaworth and most heroic of all, Janos Slynt.
 
Thanks so much KatG. I have been reading Watchmen a lot. It's the closest thing I can find that I think could be a kind of vague template for what I need to do. Also, this isn't really for money.. if I can make something off of it to support myself for all the time I have put into it great but I may end up giving it away for free to the people who can't afford it or if it isn't done well enough to get much interest. I just hope to get this info out.

Thanks for the other books too.. I am looking for anything and everything to get ideas.

If you're trying to convey science info, then there are a lot of science comic projects out there that might be helpful. You can take a look at this comics blog for Popular Science: http://www.popsci.com/blog-network/boxplot
 
Actually, Multivac isn't the protagonist, since Multivac is replaced by its descendants. The drunk guy who asks Multivac the question that starts everything is the protagonist. :) It's also worth noting that A) Asimov wrote that back when you could still do God-twist story endings; and B) it breaks innumerable bromides that some of you keep asking whether you can break, which kind of reminds me of the kids book, "Are You My Mother?"

There are many different types of story structures. They all get used.
 

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