So how are y'all preparing for the Apocalypse?

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RX-79G said:
Or maybe other countries don't have as large an underclass
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Oh come on, almost all Eastern European countries have a huge underclass and economic problems. Especially former USSR where it is either underclass or very rich people. Still we don’t have teenagers carrying around guns in their silly baggy trousers while smoking weed.

RX-79G said:
Are you suggesting executing people for crimes other than murder?
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I'm actually against any form of death penalty. But clearly USA legal system and prisons do not work (not that in my country this system works, but at least we do not spend billions of USD to support it). People return from conviction and start doing crimes all over again. Maybe it is good idea not to send them back to the same environment after releasing them from prison? But I guess in USA any such thought will be regarded as "you propose to create GULAG, it's awful".

RX-79G said:
Maybe you're using "suburb" wrong?
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You are correct. I didn't want to use word "ghetto" since it has racial connotation in it. In my society suburbs are more dangerous and inner city is safe.
 
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I think that using gun control to change a society's ills is one of those things that is more complicated than it immediately seemed. It is more like the problem of fighting an insurgency: At first glance, all you need to do is defeat the insurgents. But many militaries have been surprised, over and over, that the more insurgents you kill, more new insurgents enlist to the cause. This completely defies 'common sense', so organizations keep ignoring history and doing it over and over again. The connection between firearms and violence is not linear or simple.

Fish Owl said:
Oh come on, almost all Eastern European countries have a huge underclass and economic problems. Especially former USSR where it is either underclass or very rich people. Still we don’t have teenagers carrying around guns in their silly baggy trousers while smoking weed.
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If you don't have a large middleclass to interact with the drug trade, you don't have comparable problems.

Fish Owl said:
Oh come on, almost all Eastern European countries have a huge underclass and economic problems. Especially former USSR where it is either underclass or very rich people. Still we don’t have teenagers carrying around guns in their silly baggy trousers while smoking weed
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Fish Owl said:
I'm actually against any form of death penalty. But clearly USA legal system and prisons do not work. People return from conviction and start doing crimes all over again. Maybe it is good idea not to send them back to the same environment after releasing them from prison? But I guess in USA any such thought will be regarded as "you propose to create GULAG, it's awful".
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Most studies conclude that the opposite is the problem: Recidivism occurs because released felons are unable to find legitimate jobs, but have spent years in prison learning advanced criminal techniques and networking with other criminals.

The majority of people in US jails started life at a severe disadvantage, which is a major reason they became minor criminals in the first place. Then they became even less employable and are dumped back into the same environment they came from. By the time they have been convicted 2 or 3 times, they've been sentenced to so much prison time that there is little difference between prison and GULAG.
 
RX-79G said:
Most studies conclude that the opposite is the problem: Recidivism occurs because released felons are unable to find legitimate jobs, but have spent years in prison learning advanced criminal techniques and networking with other criminals.
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It suddenly occurred to me what was the difference between our underclass and USA's. I think education is the main reason why in former USSR underclass formed during 90-th failed economic reforms didn’t go on criminal rampage. Most of society was very well educated and cultural because of free schools, universities, great libraries and such. People even from poorest families had access to theaters and art schools.

Today everything is changing for the worst. Education now is a luxury. People do not understand why they should spend money on culture and art if it does not help you earn more money. So probably after another 10 years we will have same problem as USA with violent and aggressive underclass and I will probably be afraid to leave home without bulletproof vest.
 
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Intresting video from yeasterday about gun owhership. Almost like someone wanted to prove your point about self-defence against armed robbery.
 
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"Is this Nazi Germany?"
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So, Trump showed himself a hysteric narcissist at this latest press conference. Who would have seen that coming?
 
I don't think the terms 'car-crash' or 'train-wreck' are enough to describe that conference. Perhaps 'aeroplane disaster' ... :/
 
I wonder if the most repeated phrase in the White House over the next few years is going to be "Sorry you can't access twitter Mr President, we seem to be having WiFi issues".
 
Daryl Davis, a black blues musician whose efforts to reach out to KKK members led to more than 200 leaving the organisation, has a more positive take on a Trump presidency.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/fe...friending-black-musician-170108180802525.html

Al Jazeera: What do you think about Donald Trump's impact on racism in the country?

Davis: I think Donald Trump is the best thing that happened to the country. He is not the best choice for the presidency.
But as a residual effect of the election all these racist people are coming out and making themselves known.
America is hypocritical because we deny racism exists. Now they can no longer deny it. Now we are seeing "KKK" spray painted on cars. Talks on racism have been taboo, but now more conversations about it are starting.
You cannot solve any problem unless you see it and then you can talk about it. This country did not want to address racism. Well, now they are seeing it and are obligated to address it.
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Av Demeisen said:
America is hypocritical because we deny racism exists.l
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Except that racical issues, horrors of racism and everything racial is discussed in literally every single American movie, book and in countless songs released in the past 15-20 years.
 
All who use the word 'great' in my presence will get punched in the face from now on. Hard!
 
Look at today's headlines. The Times: Give us fair deal or you'll be crushed. And Boris Johnson "warns against WWII style punishment beatings". Britain is going of the tracks with its vile chauvinism. Boris' title should be Minister For Stirring Anti-British Sentiment.
 
I find it very amusing that Netherlanders actually think anyone in USA (except their relatives, friends and over concerned social justice warriors) care about what they think about American president. Few pages ago Av Demeisen mentioned that he voted to “keep Ukranians out of EU28”. Well, good to know, because no one actually asked Netherlands opinion on the matter and the whole voting was about free trade agreement. It was only an economical, trade agreement like the one Republic of Korea and South Africa signed with EU. But badly informed people of Netherlands voted against it because they actually believed that it's about new country joining EU28. So only thing it achieved was stripping Ukranian manufacturers their rights to sell commodities to EU and thus pushing Ukraine’s economy back into former (and possibly reviving) USSR. Way to go, I say.


Always read about what you gonna vote.

Trump or no Trump.
 
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