So how are y'all preparing for the Apocalypse?

Status
Not open for further replies.
Putin is now a side issue. He wanted to weaken Clinton and the Democrats, because a weakened US presidency is in his interests. But things went too far and now Trump is in the Oval Office, with actual power being consolidated in the hands of Steve Bannon, a neo-nazi with a Messianic vision. Americans, and the rest of us, need to oppose what is happening in Washington, DC, because the prospect of a USA run by a non-democratic, autocratic regime is now a real possibility.
 
45cd02b565.jpg
 
Matthew Hughes said:
interests. But things went too far and now Trump is in the Oval Office, with actual power being consolidated in the hands of Steve Bannon, a neo-nazi with a Messianic vision. Americans, and the rest of us, need to oppose what is happening in Washington, DC, because the prospect of a USA run by a non-democratic, autocratic regime is now a real possibility.
Click to expand...

Oppose how? By starting pointless riots, thrashing other people's property and throwing rocks at policeman? Or by spreading childish cartoons and insults over internet? There are a whole lot of people who supported Trump. Insulting them and speaking of reelections will only bring civil conflict closer.

But who am I to tell that to Americans? It's their home and country. If they want to set it on fire I only hope other contries won't be affected directly.
 
Stephen Palmer said:
The only opposition is education.
Unfortunately, that's a very long term option...
Click to expand...
I suspect that many people are going to quickly learn to appreciate the checks and balances supplied by Congress and the courts as the details of his orders begin to impact their lives and not just those of "others".
Things are happening so quickly that much of the roll out has yet to hit home.
 
Fish Owl said:
Oppose how?
Click to expand...

For a start, by organizing to elect Democrats and independents to municipal and state offices and to Congressional seats in the 2018 elections. The Republicans have outworked their opponents consistently for years and years, and since the Americans have an essentially nineteenth-century political system, they have been able to gerrymander election districts to win more seat even while receiving fewer votes at the ballot box.
 
Facing said:
the checks and balances supplied by Congress and the courts
Click to expand...

I lack faith in the vaunted cees and bees. I remember how America described itself as a nation of laws while J. Edgar Hoover sat like a poisonous toad on top of the FBI, untouchable because he had dirt on so many of those who should have removed him.

But, then, they did get rid of Nixon, so there's hope.
 
Matthew Hughes said:
For a start, by organizing to elect Democrats and independents to municipal and state offices and to Congressional seats in the 2018 elections.
Click to expand...

Today they are doing everything to lose yet another elections. Because this outrage of double standards, hatred and hysteria will only scare everyone still neutral and bring a lot of people into Republican camp.
 
Av Demeisen said:
61CsWEHXojL.jpg

Yes, I still have his If books covering the Bush era. Apes of Wrath in particular is brilliant. Hopefully the volumes on the Trump era will be short but sweet.
Click to expand...
From the glossary in the back:
Morls Things that stop you havin blowjobs in the oval orrifice. If you dont have these you aint fit to be president
Povenia Somewhere in eastern yurp
Xylophone Seekers What keeps Primester Tony Blair awake nights
 
Fish Owl said:
Today they are doing everything to lose yet another elections.
Click to expand...

You're going on the basis of the news coverage, which is basically an entertainment function. Organizing at the precinct level does not draw reportage, but it builds political machines that win elections. That's what the opposition has to do. If they do it well, the results will become known in November 2018.

On the way to that date, protests stimulate people to join the effort and keep them motivated. Of course, that works for both sides, but that's politics.

I'm not talking out of my hat. I've done politics for a living, at the national, provincial, and municipal levels in Canada. The real work is done by volunteers who go door to door to identify the party's vote, concentrate effort on motivating the vote, and make sure the vote gets to the polls on election day.

It's a ground game.
 
Matthew Hughes said:
You're going on the basis of the news coverage
Click to expand...

I’m going on my own impression I got from reading the internet. Today anywhere you go on the internet you will find posts about Trump. Almost all of them are childish insults or dangerously aggressive posts full of hatred. Trump haters don’t care about the topic of discussion; they just keep on posting about Trump. And they don’t criticize his politics (since he haven’t got any time to do a lot of politics), they just keep throwing insults and threats at him, his wife and children. This is just disgusting. People who didn’t care about elections or personality of candidates after reading those massive outbursts of hate and abuse will consciously side with Trump. Just because his haters are completely out of control.

Another reason why people may be drawn to the Republicans is double standards and morale. Democrats or random Trump haters have gone too far for too long. For example imagine if someone would hang Obama doll in his backyard with banana in his hand and fiery cross in the background. He would be in jail immediately. But it seems that there is no law for raging Democrats these days.

I know people who voted for Trump (generally because they think Clinton is even worse than him) and today they just don’t post anything about politics or read a lot of internet. Because not a lot of people want to hear insults and threats because of their political views.

Democrats and Hillary supporters talk a lot about Nazi. But they are becoming more Nazi themselves with each passing day.
 
Fish Owl said:
So you're gonna dismiss my comment entirely? I agree. There's no reason to have discussion after this.
Click to expand...

You're operating in a universe of fake news, hype, and hysteria. I'm coming from a background of real-world retail politics. So I'm talking chess and you're talking professional wrestling.

The only comment I could make on your post is that, yes, there is extremism all over the internet and 99 per cent of it is not worth taking seriously. The real, serious thing that has happened recently, re Trump, is that two US states have gone to court to contest his badly drafted, scarcely thought-out ban on visitors from seven countries. Now we see whether the US Constitution can withstand the pressures he is creating by becoming president of a constitutional republic without any grounding in how its system of government actually works.

We can talk about that, if you like, but not in the context of internet hysteria.
 
99% of people do not see real politics. All they know is media and Internet hysteria. If you think it can be easily controlled you are very very wrong. But as I said before: Americans will have to learn it by themselves. It is quite interesting that after 10+ years of "colored" and twitter revolutions in other countries it came back to its maker.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Sponsors


We try to keep the forum as free of ads as possible, please consider supporting SFFWorld on Patreon


Your ad here.
Back
Top