A Sci Fi Reading Odyssey - 50 Novels

Anyone have strong feelings about which 1-2 of these are the best Blish novels?

  • A Torrent of Faces (1967), with Norman L. Knight. Doubleday.
  • The Warriors of Day (1967). Lancer Books #73-580.
  • The Star Dwellers (1961). G. P. Putnam's Sons.
  • Titan's Daughter (March 1961). Berkley Medallion #G507.
  • The Night Shapes (October 1962). Ballantine Books #F647.
  • Mission to the Heart Stars (November 11, 1965). Faber & Faber.
  • Welcome to Mars (July 1966). G. P. Putnam's Sons.
  • The Vanished Jet (1968). Weybright and Talley.
  • … And All the Stars a Stage (July 1971). Doubleday.
  • Midsummer Century (May 1972). Doubleday,
 
I found Welcome to Mars really puerile, but my mother (god rest her soul) found it for me at a bring and buy sale and, knowing I was into science fiction at the time (think I was mid-teens or something) bought it for me (a hardback, no less: 50p I think it cost) so to be polite I read it. I did not enjoy it one bit though, and I have to say it turned me off Blish. Whether that was a good or bad idea I don't know, but I never went back to him.
 
A Case of Conscience is the one Blish that tends to get noticed, but it's not in your list - that and the Cities in Flight series, but they have dated, in some cases really badly.
 
A Case of Conscience is the one Blish that tends to get noticed, but it's not in your list - that and the Cities in Flight series, but they have dated, in some cases really badly.
Thanks Mark, Yeah, that's because it from the 50's, (right?), and I already have the list heavily loaded with 50's books. Maybe I don't need to include Blish.

Getting my Puppet review ready to past momentarily, grateful as always for any thoughts.

Martian Time Slip is rather impressive honestly, so far (just pages 1-10)
 
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The Puppet Masters by Robert A. Heinlein [1951]
Museum Press.
191 pages
Reader Response by Matt H. [v 1.08] from Reading Odyssey
Rating: Recommended, old-fashioned but solid

Story and Setting

After nuclear World War III, the US and Russia remain prominent powers. The urban landscape still bears nuclear scars, but civilization has repaired itself. Technology has advanced. Transportation is largely by means of cars that can both drive and fly on autopilot, and medicine and cosmetic alteration have also reached new heights. Phones can be implanted in an individual’s skull. Space travel is common, and the near solar system Mars and Venus have been explored and colonized.

A group of secret agents – Sam Nivens, “The Old Man”, and a tough, attractive female agent known as Mary, are called to investigate a crashed “flying saucer.” There is deception, and they very quickly discover that Earthlings have a new, horrible enemy. Their origin is apparently the outer solar system; their method is direct control of the human mind and body. They are parasites which prove extremely effective in their methods and extremely difficult to fight. As they gain more ground and take large swathes of the US, the struggle becomes ever more desperate. All three of these agents, Sam, Mary and the Old Man will prove pivotal in various ways to the conflict, and each endures psychological agonies. As the situation gets even more critical, Sam Nivens must transcend his training and acceptance of authority both scientific and governmental. With the help of vital information from Mary, he accesses an unknown inner genius and formulates a daring plan. The future of humanity will depend on its success!

Critical Appraisal

The Puppet Masters Is a well-formed, action-packed Sci Fi story and more. The “and more” exists very gracefully. It’s a book with a basically conventional flavor, a clear, quick easy read, but supported and extended by sub-flavors not necessarily all that conventional. To an extent, the characters, except perhaps for the protagonist, will seem like cut-outs, but the clever plot they are trapped within, and clever themes they partake of, do a lot to plump their dimensionality. There’s plenty of spy or detective fiction content - tough guys, heaters, gun play, disguises, partly-caricatured violence, brutal necessary sacrifices. But this conventional (and let’s be honest, often successful) structure is woven just so with a rebellious cross current and seemingly more essentially Sci Fi substance.

A transformation is at the crux of the story, from a clever grunt into a world-saving genius and hero. This is Sam’s path – he achieves his breakthroughs by smashing through rules and hierarchies. He uses his love for his wife, his irreverent common sense, and a new found technical genius to save the day. Encased within this is a conventionally touching father-son reconciliation story, of finally getting dad’s fullest possible approval. But to get there Sam must not only transgress the ivory towered science establishment, the US Congress and military discipline, but most significant of all, own father’s authority. It marks a transition and succession of power that catches the protagonist charmingly off guard.

There’s a believably deep bond between Mary and Sam born largely of the terror and trauma they share. Nevertheless they have a pretty conventional spy-story romance. Though she’s tough, and Sam does have very real respect for her, and she does share a large part of the heroics, it’s still the “yes, dear” that it seems he considers her sweetest trait. You see perhaps a stab at a more sophisticated outlook in a scene when someone insists “women are even stronger than men!” But it rang false to me and seemed almost embarrassing. In partial fairness, though Sam seems shockingly naive about relationships himself.

Making the main character something undeniably resembling an amphetamine addict was an admirably daring choice. It exposes this super-tough guy to criticism. He even recounts some typical and obvious addict rationales; he is highly concerned about his supply of drugs, and injects intravenously; he details come-down effects. Though he recounts it all very matter-of-fact and it is apparently considered to be no big deal by the wider world around him, (Like they did in WW II, powerful stimulants are used in the US military openly.) Still, there are some scenes where others say something like “Hey, take it easy on that stuff.” The most painful scene relating to this is where he gets Mary to take the speed pills too, though she clearly doesn’t want to. This is a fairly clear blot on the main character as I’m sure I Heinlein intended it to be(?). Again, more depth to Sam.

Nudity is a big part of this book. I still struggle to understand if it legitimately has a greater meaning than just a surface necessity within the plot. It is certainly an example of getting over one’s hang-ups for the sake of duty. Aside from a few minor remarks, the narrator takes it as an adult. Eventually people adapt and expect it to last in fact indefinitely.

So, allegorizing… are the slugs just the commies? Their mind control is just like the Russians, huh? No, I just don’t think you can squeeze the feeling and sense of the book into that statement. Still you must wonder in the infuriating scenes before the US congress - Is he perhaps parodying the US reluctance to enter WWII? Or is it rather the US underestimating the communist threat? Both? Neither? I guess it’s a timeless joke on Congress - as good in 2020 as anytime else.

Though it never gets too goopy, the element of horror is strong in the novel – in both the slimy nature of the enemy and in scenes where characters are forced to do terrifying things, they really, really don’t want to do. As a normal modern reader of course I have already been exposed to the idea of alien parasites on human bodies. But what if I hadn’t? What if I were reading it for the first time? I bet the terror would be substantially magnified. Even as it is, the slugs are pretty icky.

In fact it’s fun to hate the slugs. I mean to really, really hate them! You want to slice ‘em and sizzle them. There is a foreshadowing of revenge and “to be continued” at the end. And the book concludes with a rousing tribute to amped-up human aggression -- an intense, species-unifying, recreational hatred of the slugs. Why not?
 
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Finished Puppet Masters, It was solid, fun, action-adventure, and a lot more too. A pretty breezy read, conventional in ways, but not a piece of fluff, by any means. Working on review.

Started Martian Time-Slip. Anyone want to revisit your favorite, druggy writer, PKD and read it with me? This is one of his earlier ones, 1964 (corrected).... and according to the sage panel here, should be among his better.
That's a good one as I recall. I'd much prefer you read it, and see if you inspire me to a reread!! :D :cool:
 
Nice review on Puppet Masters. The YA version has less nudity. :) Think I prefer the expurgated version.

If I remember right, the book was written by Heinlein to give him a break from writing the juveniles and in response to all the flying saucer books and movies that were around at the time. (Sort've along the lines of... "What would a proper SF writer do with this?") but it also plays into the paranoia of the Communist threat of the time, which Heinlein also was very aware of.
 
Nice review on Puppet Masters. The YA version has less nudity. :) Think I prefer the expurgated version.
Thanks, Hobbit! The nudity wasn't salacious or racy particularly... It was just too prominent (perhaps) not to have some greater meaning... But I could be stretching it. Do you think the slugs really *are* just menat to represent the commies? It could be... For me, the book rescued itself from being a political allegory...
 
A Case of Conscience is the one Blish that tends to get noticed, but it's not in your list - that and the Cities in Flight series, but they have dated, in some cases really badly.
I like Cities in Flight For Blish more than you Do Mark.

Parts of it are lodged in memory such as the scene near the start when the protagonist is sitting in a corporate waiting room and staring at the corp. motto written in german in large letters on the wall above the receptionist's desk... he tries to translate it using the "if only it was English method and gets "The Fatter Toad Waxes on...." and decides that is perhaps less than useful.
 
Thanks, Hobbit! The nudity wasn't salacious or racy particularly... It was just too prominent (perhaps) not to have some greater meaning... But I could be stretching it. Do you think the slugs really *are* just meant to represent the commies? It could be... For me, the book rescued itself from being a political allegory...
I enjoy reading books by major authors when they step away from their main Genre for a book or two the Way Hienlien did with Glory Road and the novellas Waldo and Magic Inc.to dabble in the fantasy pool for a bit... you can see another way about the way they work around plot problems that in their mainstream books are in part concealed by their mastery of the genre Glory Road has the Nudity elements for example and the Magic is explained as far future high tech. in Magic inc. he drops straight to the Magic is real bottom line with it a part of the normal bureaucracy of the book.

I should point out that in the 1950s and 60s nudity with close friends in family groups was common amongst the university-educated in the USA. It was mostly seen at things like beach parties or camping where your group of several families could have its own section of beach quite distant from the next group so you were private from strangers.
 
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The Puppet Masters by Robert A. Heinlein [1983]

I haven't read this one, although of course it's famous and I'm aware what it is about. I really should read more Heinlein. I was a big Asimov fan growing up, but my reading of the other two members of the "Big Three" is a bit patchy. I have read all of Heinlein's juveniles, but not so many of his adult novels. Part of it is that I dislike the works from the later part of his career (and also Stranger in a Strange Land). Also, I prefer more far future, stories in space and so on, rather than near future thrillers. And this one sounded too much like a horror thriller.
 
Part of it is that I dislike the works from the later part of his career (and also Stranger in a Strange Land). ...
Also, I prefer more far future, stories in space and so on, rather than near future thrillers. And this one sounded too much like a horror thriller.
Thanks, farseer. Hope I gave a clear overall impression... it's a fairly conventional book. It's a fun read still. But I think you're right, there is a strong flavor of "horror thriller" as you aptly put it. I think both Mark and I agree about Stranger, far from my fav.
 
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I should point out that in the 1950s and 60s nudity with close friends in family groups was common amongst the university-educated in the USA. It was mostly seen at things like beach parties or camping where your group of several families could have its own section of beach quite distant from the next group so you were private from strangers.
Windy, interesting, I guess I had a general notion of this. Perhaps the nudity is a way of showing a certain liberal sophitication. Kind of neat in a way because it would seem to possibly go contray to the MC's overall tough-guy, aggressive, military persona. More depth in that case.
 
Do you think the slugs really *are* just menat to represent the commies? It could be...
Well, yes, and I'm sure that RAH made sure that you could see it that way. The mind control could represent the unthinking masses herded by a central mind/government, brainwashed to do their bidding.

But like a lot of RAH it can work on different levels. For example, it's also deliberately meant to be a scarier version of all those alien & flying saucer movies and books at the time. How would you compete against a seemingly undefeatable (or at least potentially superior) enemy, with mind control?
 
Well, yes, and I'm sure that RAH made sure that you could see it that way. The mind control could represent the unthinking masses herded by a central mind/government, brainwashed to do their bidding.
Remember he mentions Russia several times, saying they should be a great fit for the slugs. In a way that achieves some separation between the Reds and the slugs, shows they are different.
But like a lot of RAH it can work on different levels. For example, it's also deliberately meant to be a scarier version of all those alien & flying saucer movies and books at the time. How would you compete against a seemingly undefeatable (or at least potentially superior) enemy, with mind control?
Yep, it's what makes it a durable read... just basic good writing, a cut-above many other versions.

Question: As far as you know did RAH more-or-less invent the idea of alien human parasites? (and mind control thing). Or did he borrow/adapt it? Like I said, if you were reading such an idea for the first time, that must have been damn scary! :-)
 
Ender’s Game by Orson Scott Card [1977]

I read this at a perfect age (very early teens) and loved it intensely. I think you are right that elements like Ender's siblings seem like they are going to play a big role in the story and then they just don't. It's like the author is setting up another story there that never really gets told. As it is, it adds background to Ender's character, which I think makes him more three-dimensional. One thing that I was not so sure about was the whole Locke and Demosthenes thing. I was like "gee, they must really write well for a couple of kids to gain so much influence". But of course, back then there was no internet, so no one really knew how such a thing might work. Maybe it would go like that, a big market of ideas with the best rising to the top... In hindsight, it just looks incredibly naive, but well, who would have guessed the cesspool that the internet would turn out to be?

Anyway, the sequel, Speaker for the Dead, is really worth reading too. It's an unusual sequel, in the sense that it's a direct continuation but a very different kind of story, and it's good too.
 
Question: As far as you know did RAH more-or-less invent the idea of alien human parasites? (and mind control thing). Or did he borrow/adapt it? Like I said, if you were reading such an idea for the first time, that must have been damn scary!
Oh that was an age old trope... if I remember right, Ginny Heinlein didn't like the book much because of that, to which RAH replied that old quote about Shakespeare borrowing plots - it's what you do with it that counts.

However there were a couple of publishers who steered away from it because it was too scary, at least at first. Again, if I remember right, one of the book publishers said (good old 1950's!) "...you'll never get women to read it!"

The edited version was what appeared in Galaxy Magazine, though even then the editor (H. Gold) changed some of the prose in the first part - which RAH was VERY unhappy about.
 
Remember he mentions Russia several times, saying they should be a great fit for the slugs. In a way that achieves some separation between the Reds and the slugs, shows they are different.

Yep, it's what makes it a durable read... just basic good writing, a cut-above many other versions.

Question: As far as you know did RAH more-or-less invent the idea of alien human parasites? (and mind control thing). Or did he borrow/adapt it? Like I said, if you were reading such an idea for the first time, that must have been damn scary! :)
I put my (increasingly) little grey cells to work and could not come up with any novels. Googled around and did no better, although I did find lots of alien invasion stories. Some short story takeovers using mind control.
Whether RAH invented the trope or not, the popularity and easy readability of TPM was such that the name became a common usage.
The other clasic invasion (Invasion of the Body Snatchers) had a different kind of takeover and came out in 56' - five years later.

edit. Hobbit & I posted, literally at the same minute. Old trope? Interested in what you found H.
And yes. Heinlein hated editing. It was one reason he ended his juvenile series, by deliberately sending Scribners something he knew that they would not publish, voiding their contract.
 
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Oh that was an age old trope... if I remember right, Ginny Heinlein didn't like the book much because of that, to which RAH replied that old quote about Shakespeare borrowing plots - it's what you do with it that counts.

However there were a couple of publishers who steered away from it because it was too scary, at least at first. Again, if I remember right, one of the book publishers said (good old 1950's!) "...you'll never get women to read it!"

The edited version was what appeared in Galaxy Magazine, though even then the editor (H. Gold) changed some of the prose in the first part - which RAH was VERY unhappy about.
Figured you would have something to say, (a more pleasant auxillary to researching it myself!) but Pogo couldn't easily find an example.... aliens physically attached to people, (with or without the mind-control part). Amazingly still retains a bit of it's scare value! Once again, it must have been shocking and awful for those who never imagined such a thing.
 
Again, if I remember right, one of the book publishers said (good old 1950's!) "...you'll never get women to read it!"

I'm surprised they considered that a problem in the 50s. Were female readers a sizable part of the SF market back then? Although this is a kind of SF that could interest readers of horror or thrillers, as well as SF.
 

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