Anita Blake

wow, ok, she really doesnt get the point... doesnt she understand we freaking loved her serie until she totally screwed it up? i mean, isnt it obvious that we liked her universe too and would just like a little story to come back to the books? all her talk about comfort zone and how her character developpement is awesome really made me laugh... im sorry but her books dont come close to leaving my comfort zone, it s actually become quite boring after 5 books or so... and the bit about not killing any characters because people would feel an emotional loss? what total bullshit, isnt it the point to create emotions in the readers, be they good or bad? i must say after reading her post about her fans that have negative sentiments towards her latest books i just cant feel any respect for her anymore...
 
I have read all the books up to Cerulean Sins, myself. I admit, I had to force myself through the last two, NiC and CS. I loved the first few, hence I got the next ones. Anita was an awesome and refreshing character. But then she turned into a sex demon who took on anyone and I dropped the series.

LKH... Well, no comments, really. Everything said, is already on my mind. And there is a fun community called LKH lashouts that always cracks me up on LJ. And thats all I really have to say about it.

Flac out!
 
I've tried twice now to read Narcissus in Chains and lost interest both times. This series just went to hell. The character drastically changed and the stories seem to be the same thing over and over.

I read the comic series but I doubt I'll ever pick up another book again.
 
OK, here's where I have to put my 2 cents in..unsolicited as they might be. But frankly, I have heard far too much bashing of Laurell. Simply put, she's the one with the fertile imagination that created the substantial universe in which Anita Blake and all her characters exist in. If the books simply aren't to your liking, don't read them. Don't spend another dime on them. Don't waste your valuable time making comments about her work.

Flat out, if you feel that there's someone out there that suits your fancy much better, then by all means, read their work. Spend money on them. Rave about them all you wish. I mean, as seen above, Laurell's given you her express permission in which to do so.

Or do one better. Write your own novel. Get it published. Have it hit the New York Times Bestseller's List. Then watch how quickly people rave about your work or make inane, disparaging comments about your work. See just how quickly this wears on your very last nerve or hurts your feelings. And then, speak out about how you feel, only to be crapped on even more.

I feel that she's doing a wonderful job. Can it be better? Of course, but that can be said about anything. The car goes 240 MPH...someone will always say that's far too slow and want the car to go 260 MPH. The cheesecake at the deli is rich and decadent...someone will always want there to be nuts, coconut, whipped cream, or some other thing on it. I believe the statement goes "One man's trash is another man's treasure."

For me, Anita's world is a nice escape from my own. Laurell has worked her magic on me ever since Guilty Pleasures. Hell, I read from book one to book Seven, Burnt Offerings, in three days. I was enraptured by the universe from the first time I cracked the cover. Has the amount of sex annoyed me? Only recently...but only in a minor fashion. I feel Laurell will indeed redeem herself with The Harlequin. I have no doubt that the series is going to be around for a few more years, with a finale that will make me weep, laugh, rage, and cheer all at the same time.

And to make it clear...I'm just a loyal fan putting my 2 cents in, just like each of you have. If you don't like it...lump it. Rage on if you like. It won't make one iota of a difference to me. But, there's my 2 cents. Hope you enjoyed and if you didn't...I'll make lemonade out of the lemons you throw. :)

SC Darkwulf
 
As someone who also feels the series fell apart a few books ago, I'll mention that you seem to agree with the negative comments in this thread; you just don't want people to post them.

In your post defending Hamilton, you say othat of course the series could be better, the amount of sex has annoyed you recently, and that you believe Hamilton can redeem herself in the next book. You are in the same boat as many others: continuing to read a series you feel is declining in the hopes that it will get better.

I agree with you that telling Hamilton to her face that her books suck lately is not a very nice thing to do. But talking with others about the books is a different matter entirely. Hamilton can take her own advice and not read people's comments on websites if she doesn't want to.

I read Hamilton's letter to negative fans on her forum and I didn't have a problem with it at all. In fact, it addressed many questions I had - like "Does she even know that people think her books suck now?" This is why people tell her that her book suck to her face - they think the feedback will help her correct the mistake. Honesty can be helpful.

Unfortunately for disappointed fans, not only does she know some people hate her recent books, but she answered my other question - those people are in the minority and her sales go up every book. I mentioned on another thread that I thought her editor forced her to 'go romance novel' to boost sales, but Hamilton has made it clear that she was the decision maker. Good for her, and I respect her increased success. At this point, there is no reason to keep yelling at Hamilton, but people can keep yelling about Hamilton as long as they want.
 
I agree that telling LKH to her face that her books suck is tacky, but in several ways she has also brought that on herself.

She is/was a self proclaimed techno-phob: I think she has someone else type in and hit enter when she does on-line chats/interviews. So her 'negative fans' feel that she isn't getting the information that many of them are not happy. I think many really hope to SAVE the series.

Then there is the whole group-think issue with LKH surrounding herself with fawning yes men/women. She makes it clear that she doesn't want negativity and she pays their salaries.

Finally when she does talk about fan un-happiness, she seems to frame it as 'a few kooks', and 'small minority'. Its her way of saying who they are, and what they are saying has no validity or weight - a situation bound to make the voices only get louder.

I myself have still yet to read Danse Macabre, though I bought it in HC and PB. I will probably not buy The Harlequin in HC, and may even skip PB if I still haven't read DM by then.

Not only has AB become a cold, hard, nasty, selfish, self-absorbed slut, the other characters have been changed to fawn on AB or else they have been banished or rendered mentally/emotionally unstable (Richard, Ronnie, Dolph). Just not worth reading anymore.

But I refuse to give up my right to call it low-grade horse manure, or to talk about it, and no I don't have to be an author or on the NYT bestseller list to earn that right. I spent my money on her stinky books, and that gives me the right.

And if Laurell continues to make herself into a laughingstock, then she too is fair game. From what I understand her personall appearances have become farce, and its not just fans but other authors who are slagging her now.

Her new ad campaign just puts the icing on the Mary Sue Cake.
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By the way the comics are just as bad. The first 7 books were normal, and now with the comics she has gone back and transformed them into the same turgid mush as the later books. Not so much with the text, but with the horrible art. Everyone looks the same, like they are from some horrible My-Little Pony, wet dream.
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I will probably check out Strange Candy in the store when it is published in trade. I may buy it, and I may not. Depends on the manure content.
 
wow, that s really horrible... i must say i was a fan until a few books ago... a big fan... i must have read the first 8 books about 10 times each but i must say Danse macabre is the last book i ll ever buy from Hamilton... i might borrow it from the library, a thing i usually only do for out of print books, or i might not...
The only thing that might be enough of a slap in the face for her to do a turn around on these pieces of s**t she calls books(since money is now obviously her only reason for writting books) is if her sales go down dramatically, so im gonna do my part to achieve that because i REALLY did love her early work.
 
I used to be a huge Anita Blake fan. I even ran a fansite for a while.

However, I don't even care when new books come out anymore. As a reader, I've been alienated. When I became upset about the quality of the the novels, the author attacked me as a "kook." God forbid I don't like the poorly written erotica she writes now. Its just not good - I don't find it to be interesting. Its like someone handed her an anatomy book and said "have fun." Hell, Anne Rice's foray into S&M was better written than the tripe LKH has come out with recently. Her response to my boredom? That the upset fans are sexually "repressed." Dear god. What a deluded hack.

Yes, there is a lot of emotion here... but I hate that I supported her, helping her to get where she is today, just to be called names because I don't care for the path she chose.

I'll stick to GOOD writers, such as Charlaine Harris or Anne Bishop for my literary pleasure.
 
The only good thing I can say about Hamiliton is this: Hopefully the fan dissappointment will register with other authors. I would hate to see some of my other faves, Harrison, Harris and Pettersson, go the way of "Hamilton". I pray they see the lesson here.

As far as reading her (Hamilton) new ones, well I won't. Not until I read from other fans or hear from them that she has finally come back into the real world and made Anita bearable again. There are too many other authors and books out there to spend my time and money on. But like many others out there I do hope one day she will go back to what Anita was before. But after reading what she wrote about her fans, well I don't really think it will happen. As long as she keeps selling books, she won't see the light, and will think people like her books the way they are now. And I am sure there are a lot out there that do. And if so more power to them. But what the books are now is not what I started reading with Guilty Pleasures, and what I really liked.
 
I do find it interesting that sales have increased with every book. Obviously, the majority of readers disagree with our opinion, unless Hamilton is lying which I doubt.

I can only guess that what has happened is she has basically switched readership to a completely different group. The romance novel readers that enjoy her work now don't post on sci-fi boards, so we get an unfair sampling of people who enjoyed the earlier books and hate the new ones. I imagine that somewhere is a romance book board where people complain about buying the earlier Anita Blake books and being disappointed with the violence and action, and lack of explicit sex.

On another note, since someone mentioned Anne Bishop, I will mention that I emailed her a couple of times when I read her books, and she responded personally within a day both times. She was very friendly, honest and wrote a detailed answer to my questions. I don't usually consider the author when making my book purchases, but I must say that impressed me quite a bit and is quite a contrast to Hamilton.
 
Don't tell me!

I'm a fresh Anita Blake fan, I didn't know it but as soon as I read the first two a couple of months ago, I have thoughtlessly bought all of them at once on Amazon, as in Italy they've only translated till from 1st to 6th.
I've been currently reading the Killing Dance, which is still very good, and I went for an merry netsurfing to know more about the characters: but now I'm upset by your comments!
So, from the 7th on, it becomes a mere pornographic novel. :(
How sad! I was in love with Jean-Claude and Anita story, and I can't understand why the writer change Anita into a whore. Very, very sad...
 
I'm a fresh Anita Blake fan, I didn't know it but as soon as I read the first two a couple of months ago, I have thoughtlessly bought all of them at once on Amazon, as in Italy they've only translated till from 1st to 6th.
I've been currently reading the Killing Dance, which is still very good, and I went for an merry netsurfing to know more about the characters: but now I'm upset by your comments!
So, from the 7th on, it becomes a mere pornographic novel. :(
How sad! I was in love with Jean-Claude and Anita story, and I can't understand why the writer change Anita into a whore. Very, very sad...


Oh no, no, no. You can't say that Anita is a whore. In certain books, that makes you a sexually-stunted, emotionally-repressed, kook with a lack of intelligence and/or personal taste. You have to realize that Anita became sexually liberated by an outside force that wormed its way into her psyche. She *has* to have copious amounts of sex or else she'll die (or some other tripe like that). I'm serious. It one of the only things in the new stories that resembles a plot. I wish LKH would go back to her former writing style; it was much more interesting. And worth my cash.
 
Anita is past whoredom and has become little more than a public convenience. In one scene in one of the books she is in bed screwing with 4 men and has a woman on a metaphysical sexual link. She can't cross from one side of the room to another without having multiple sex acts with total strangers (I am not making this up).

Burnt Offerings (7), Blue Moon (8), Obsidian Butterfly (9) are the last books that aren't full of badly written boring sex, and no plot. I don't like the last 2 books, but at least they are not full of sex.

Anita was not a prude nor was she repressed. She had morals and standards, which is what makes the change so out of character.

What she did have was a problem allowing herself to admit that she wanted sex, and that it didn't always have to be with the love of her life. She was incapable of making a normal request for sex, as part of a relationship. It had to be major drama, life or death or a save the world emergency.

Sadly, the new Anita has not even addressed this issue, because she doesn't choose to have all this sex, but is forced to by the ardeur/arduer. Besides her morals and her standards, she was a strong, brave woman and now she is a 'victim' who has no control, and is happy to make excuses for her behavior, just like the baddies she judges.

There are plenty of people who like the 'new' Anita (if we are to believe the sales numbers), and you may find that you are one of them. But I suggest you may want to test drive the sex books before you spend the money.

I have not picked up the new one, and won't (I will check it out when it goes into paper, and make another decision then). There are some reviews that indicate that there is a bit more plot, and not so much sex in this one. But still not the Anita of old. I just am not willing to fund LKH anymore at this point.

I would also say that Amazon has been removing some negative comments in their forums, so it maybe that they are filtering the reviews of The Harlequin and not putting up bad ones.

I don't have a problem with sex, erotica, and even porn (gay, straight, vanilla or S&M) in books, but I want it to be well written, I want it to have a decent story with a plot, and I don't want to see a character who was type A suddenly become type B from one book to the next, with only a bad plot device to explain it.

Anita has become Merry (LKH sex/dark fantasy character) with a gun, when they started out as completely different people.

On top of this Anita has become just a nasty, cold, self-absorbed twit who believes her own publicity. She doesn't care about the little people anymore, people who used to be her friends. Contrast Anita's attitude and behavior getting ready for Catherine's wedding in #2 Laughing Corpse, and her attitude attending Larry's wedding in #12 Incubus Dreams .

She develops 2-3 new powers per book, has all the men lusting after her, has banished many of the good early characters (or made them evil/crazy), as well as the other female characters.

Then of course there are the repetitive phrases and words, the bad grammar and spelling errors. Its like no one was able to edit or spell check the book. If she is going to put herself out in HC and charge a fortune then she needs to meet some minimum standards for literacy. Not to mention the plot/rule/world inconsistencies (YAABIs).

A lot of these problems have always been there, but they have gotten worse, and were easier to overlook when there was a gripping story to read. Now its more like count the problems, or correct them with a red pen and ship the book back to the publisher.
 
The Harlequin

Read it. Not bad, back to some of the earlier books with a general plot, etc.

That said, the plot is only there marginally, and I felt it a bit desparate in how LKH brings back as many of the old favorite characters as she can manage to fit into a single book.

Not a terrible read, but I still and probably won't ever again spend money on LKH books.
 
Anita has become Merry (LKH sex/dark fantasy character) with a gun, when they started out as completely different people.

Ficus, I couldn't have said it better!

Actually, I enjoy the books in spite of the sometimes exhausting sex-ardeur scenarios. I am almost done with Harlequin, and it really does tone down the sex a little. Plus we see the return of Edward, a character that has always intrigued me.

I am afraid sex sells these days. To be honest, I like "safe" erotica......books I don't mind my family seeing! Oh well, what can I say?

The best Anita books, though, were the first ten. After that, things began to slip downhill, with more sex than plot.
 
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I had no idea this many people were angry about her work. I love it. I love all of them I always have. I do believe that AB will get a hold on the ardeur. Micah is one of my favorite characters because I think he was what AB needed. I think LKH realized that her fans were upset about him. She came up with an explanation as to how he just showed up and entered AB's world in one book. From what I've read on here alot of you would probably call the reason a cop out and you may be right. I have missed the police work in the last few books but it's hard to work with the police when they think that you're a monster.

The Harlequin is a very good book. It does return to more of the elements in the series before AB's love life became such a problem, but there are elements of her love life that make this story much better than it would have been otherwise. I don't think that LKH's fan base has shifted all that much. I've never liked romance novels and I think that if that's all these were I wouldn't read them. I was never a very big fan of the MG series because it almost immediately started off with MG trying to get pregnant to secure a throne. I have read them though and I thought they were okay.

It was nice to come on here and see all of your opinions but I ran across it unintentionally. Thanks for letting me take up some of your time.
 
Anita has become Merry (LKH sex/dark fantasy character) with a gun, when they started out as completely different people.

Ficus, I couldn't have said it better!

Actually, I enjoy the books in spite of the sometimes exhausting sex-ardeur scenarios. I am almost done with Harlequin, and it really does tone down the sex a little. Plus we see the return of Edward, a character that has always intrigued me.

I am afraid sex sells these days. To be honest, I like "safe" erotica......books I don't mind my family seeing! Oh well, what can I say?

The best Anita books, though, were the first ten. After that, things began to slip downhill, with more sex than plot.

Thank you.

I have heard this book has more plot, but that LKH also keeps dropping previous plot points, and that she turns Edward into a pimp for AB.

As I said I will check it out, but only in paper.

And if you want to see lots of angry readers check out Amazon reviews on the previous book, as well as their forums.
 
I read up through Incubus Dreams and won't be reading any more AB books.

The sexual stuff in the first half dozen books or so was fine but once she started screwing 4 different guys in 100 pages I just lost all attachment to the character.

I'll be out looking for other authors who can deliver a decent modern day supernatural story without it devolving into copious amounts of sex, any recommendations? :confused:

Jim Butcher, Simon R Green, Charlaine Harris, Kate Daniels, Patricia Briggs.
Who else fits into this group?
 
Although i have read up until the 12th book. i found that her first 6 books were okay but then the rest just got boring and it was the same thing again and again. i think she didn't get her idea though the books
 

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