Legends II -news and discussion

It's more complicated, the hardcover edition was split in three in the US, but only in two in the UK. Don't know about Germany, easy to check, there are 11 stories in the whole thing. So start counting.
 
Ok so they can't call it legends II without confusing alot of people so umm what can they call it? Hard to top Legends.

"-insert title of Jordan shortstory here-" by Robert Jordan and some other stuff!
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Heck thats the only reason I brought the first one
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How about "new Legends" or "More legends"
or "more boring fluff by Jordan and interesting stories from Hobb and Martin"
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Well the important bit is the name Jordan not what comes before or after it
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Which proves my old point that Jordanytes would buy anything with his name on it, including the Phone-book of Peking in Mandarin, of course even that would be more exciting than Path of daggers
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In no order whatsoever:

Terry Pratchett
Terry Goodkind
Neil Gaiman
J.K. Rawling
Brian Jacques
Orson Scott Card
Tad Williams
John Marco
Holly Lisle
L.E. Modesitt Jr.
 
Legends I was split up in TWO volumes in german (thanks barbarossa, just checked).


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The fundamental problem with Jordan is that he's a poor writer. He has little ability to write proper character point of views. If you observe his writing closely, he always inserts his own narrative godlike voice into the thoughts of his characters. He doesn't maintain a first, second or third point of view.

That's just one of many issues. Jordan has also pushed himself up against the wall, so to speak, by creating a plot that doesn't appear to have an end in sight, nor one that always seems to make logical sense.

He doesn't seem to understand that we don't need to see the certain actions of certain characters. The Forsaken appear to be much less threatening when they're given screen time, because they're humanized.

If Jordan truly intended for readers to fear the Forsaken, he should have have shown as little of them as possible. I never thought a great deal of psychological insight was needed to understand this, but perhaps I was wrong.

To compliment this, he writes about characters whose insights are irrelevant to the main narrative, and whose interruption disrupt the flow of the novels and contributes little to the novel as a whole. It is not necessary that Jordan display the thoughts of Elaida, rebel Aiel, or Aes Sedai of tertiary importance.

What would be more appropriate would be to have events occur off-screen and then mentioned in passing. There is no need to write an 800 page novel of which only 350 or 400 pages are truly necessary. We need not read about the side adventures of characters as they ride their horses through the country-side.

I have always felt that Lord of Chaos (which some call one of the finest novels in the WoT series) was the most synthetic and wasteful of the books. The book could have been 300 pages if properly written and/or edited.

Unfortunately, Jordan's editor is his wife, and so I presume that her personal feelings towards her husband disrupt her ability to maintain an objective criticism of Jordan's work.
 
The fundamental problem with Jordan is that he's a poor writer. He has little ability to write proper character point of views.

The fundamental problem with Qin is that he doesn't like fantasy imo. He also forgets to add imo. He would never add imho as he isnt humble imo.
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Perhaps of interest, Robin Hobb also acknowledged that she's been asked for this anthology and was honoured to be included.

Can't wait for that one. But I'll have to, fall 2003 is a long long way of.

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Pre-emptive Strike!

Qin Caldazar, let's try to keep this somewhat close to topic.

Though I understand what you say Caldazar about IMO/IMHO, it is generally taken for granted what we post here is our opinion.

Qin, I understand that's your opinion, just sometimes the way you phrase things it sounds more like absolute fact than opinion.

Thank you
 
Instead of actually replying to my thoughts with articulate and intelligent comments of your own, you instead simply latch onto a single thought that you feel is missing. Why bother then Caldazar?
 
Though I understand what you say Caldazar about IMO/IMHO, it is generally taken for granted what we post here is our opinion.

Unless of course, Cal thinks we are the Borg and are engaging in a far-reaching assimilation process
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Instead of actually replying to my thoughts with articulate and intelligent comments of your own,

Umm cause I don't have any
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. Umm i brb as soon as i've looked up articulate in my dictionary.

::mumbles sometink about serious people::
 
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Okay, now that Qin has recieved an "articulate and intelligent" reply to his Jordan opinions, perhaps you guys could move anything further on this to an appropriately 'Jordan'esque topic.....and keep this one a little closer to title!

Cheers guys.
 
For anyone interested, GRRM has announced the title of his next short story for Legends 2. Here's a direct quote from GRRM.

If Legends II does indeed happen - that is not entirely certain as I write - I will indeed contribute a second Dunk and Egg story, "The Sworn Sword."

Since Legends II does indeed seem a reality, we can look forward to "The Sworn Sword". As "Hedge Knight" was one of the better stories in the first Legends, I think we can really be excited about this.
 
The funny thing about all of this, is that it seems rather obvious that you do this for attention.

Believe it or not, nothing posted here is for attention. I am on the board as I am everywhere else.

And Sam, what made you think I received an intelligent and articulate reply? JohnH, whoever he is, did anything but reply in such a manner. We're going to have to wait a bit longer for someone to actually discuss the post. Where're Llama or Shehzad when I need them?

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