Obtaining your novels

An independent bookstore is defined as any bookstore that is not part of a national or international chain of stores. For example as long as the store is not part of Barns and Nobles or Borders or Amazon or Walden books it is usually thought to be an independent bookstore.

These book stores are usually better for hard to find books, but often attempt to stave off the new and creative writers because they are not part of the writing establishment. What’s your thinking on the matter?
 
I think that a new author publishing with a small press (not a vanity press) has a better chance of being stocked by an independent bookstore than B & N etc. only because frequently the owner/manager will take the time to read new authors and research new authors whom they don't yet know. An author can approach a store and suggest that they carry his/her books at an independent whereas that is impossible at a chain store. But, it can get expensive for your publisher and for you if you try to send sample copies to thousands of independents. B & N and Borders have a procedure for submitting a newly published book for consideration, so you only need to fill out the paperwork and send it once.

DarthV - I would much rather be shelved at the small stores who cater to a specific genre and actually know the auhtors and the books. But, in order to sell any kind of quantities, you also need to be online and available for those thousands of people who never leave their houses anymore, and even do buy (Kevin) their underwear on line.
 
I admit, I love bookstores... but you know, online is just more convenient and gets the bulk of my spending dollars. I buy about 2-4 books a month, and 75% of those come from Amazon.com. I like being able to read the excerpt, and seeing the online reviews. Frankly, I also like the simple idea that I click away, and a few days later it shows up. I live about 15 miles from a main distribution center, so delivery is very quick. The costs on average seem about the same, the savings + the shipping costs about the average bookstore price (although B&N does better on their top sellers which are well discounted).
 
I have Erikson in stock in our bookstore in Holland. btw, I do not like his books and I would never recommend them, but to each his own. The funny thing is, it is actually sent by one of the standard importers of books. Strange thing is: I know they have Mercedes Lackey as well, but they did not send us her new paperback. I will have to order that.

Our bookstore is not a small store though. Even though we are indepedent. We're part of an organisation for indepedent bookstores (that's Holland for ya). I find it hard to believe that we can get so many titles here and it being difficult for people in England and the US to get certain titles.

I also know of bookstores where the staff are less than freindly and helpfull. But the Waterstone's in Amsterdam (yes, we have one as well) has the best people you could imagine working there. And they stock about 7-8 bookcases full of new titles, mixed with the classics they should have. I only have room for one bookcase for both sci fi and fantasy. It's a challenge to find the right balance of classics and new titles. And somehow I manage, I think.

I still think that bookstores have an advantage over online ordering. But not all stores; only the really good ones. The ones where people work who love reading books.

GemQuest: care to give me the ISBN of your book then? I would love to try and order it :)
 
Sure, Daenerys. It is available from Ingram. The isbn is 0595093280. The title is (surprise) GemQuest, The Twins. That's the first one in the series. The Awakening and The Shards are books II and III. Book IV which should be complete soon is The Revenge of the Elves. Right now, only book I is available. But the entire series will be available some time next year. I am about to sign a new contract with a different publisher who wants to present them all at the same time as a series. This publisher, finally, will market them too. You can read an official review here on sffworld. Actually, I met the people here after the review was posted. Had they not liked my books, I don't know if I would ever have gotten so involved with this great website!
Thanks for your interest.
 
courtney, Pulp Fiction is a great shop but The new Borders store must be hurting them. The only reason I shopped at Pulp Fiction was because they stocked american publishers. Now Borders does that and i'm guessing that they can afford to discount their books more than PF. I asked The guys at Pulp fiction how much the Hardcover of the new Erikson book would be and they said $60!! Heck it's only costing me $5 more to get it from amazon.uk.

I order most of my Hardbacks online as the some authors don't get released in Hardcover in Australia anymore. Which means that if I get it ordered in locally I would have to pay the full RRP which is usually over $40 on my favourite authors. Online i get a discount and usually get it before it's aus release. Postage works out ok if order more than one book at a time.
 
Originally posted by DarthV
GemQuest, I can see your point about the small pusblishers and how it's easier to deal with online sales. Then again, any good bookstore can order in copies of your work on request. I'd rather spend my money at a place that is locally owned...and not just around to drive everyone else out of business and then provide less and less service & value.
Amen to that !
I just so happen to be lucky enough to have two really good bookshops(aus) in my area , and besides I don't own a credit card so shopping online is always going to be a problem for me !!!
 
I buy my books for a Sci-Fi/Fantasy book club in the UK. They are pretty good at getting new stuff in and a couple of times a year they do sales on reprints :)

I have bought probably 300 books off them in the last 4 years.
 
Unfortunately, we don't have many local bookstores. About 30 miles away is a small independent that specializes mainly in children's books, self help books, coffee table books, and coffee. They stock about 25 sf/f novels but can order stuff if you know what you want. About 45 miles away we have a B. Dalton (affiliated with Barnes and Noble). About 75 miles away there is one of the big B&N stores. I have shopped online and at the B&N stores, but hardly ever at the independent because I don't necessarily know what I want before I get there, their prices are higher, and their selection is poor. I just use whatever is most convenient at the time I want the book. It's not as if I am taking away from "local" businesses by shopping at any of these places because none of them are really all that local for me.
 
I live in a small city of roughly 40k. We have two bookstores, one independant and I think the other (Book World) is a mid-west chain in the U.S.

That being said, I buy every single book from amazon.com these days. The independant store in town couldn't keep a decent supply of speculative fiction books in stock if a list was generated for her (believe me, it's been tried).. the place looks like a used book store anyway. It's neat actually, she has a few fantasy books in stock that have been out of print for 5+ years.

Book World, while being a chain, isn't large enough to offer a real selection of anything. The store is filled with "book 2 of" or "book 8 of" and doesn't bother stocking the original 1-7! They JUST began carrying Jordan's back list last year. They have yet to have a complete Martin list, or Brooks. They do have about 60 different Forgotten Realms or Dragonlance titles (yawn). I'm still waiting for them to get a copy of The Briar King in stock so I can get a feel for it before buying..

So why do I go to Book World about every other day? I don't buy books from them - ever. I go because I can rifle through the "New" releases, get a feel for the book.. write down the title, come home and order it.

Book World will gladly order any book I want free of charge - with delivery in 3-4 weeks. Amazon delivers the same book at a discounted price (free shipping) in 5-7 days - faster if I want to dish out 5 bucks shipping.

I just don't see the point in buying from a store that has $$ signs covering their eyes when they are placing orders.

DRW
 
Personally, I think Amazon is great. You can research, maybe read an excerpt, and then order easily, often at a discount. If a title is out of print, there's always half.com. Otherwise, you can order just about anything, and you almost never have to worry about sold-out titles. Come on, how many times have you wanted to get into a series and nobody seems to have the #@*^%@ first title in stock?

This applies just as well to super-stores as it does to small independents. It's a matter of sales and shelf space. I worked as the fiction supervisor at a Barnes & Noble for a while, and I was frequently reminded that we were running a bookstore, not a library. Certainly, we had a better selection than a mall store, but there were so many titles I just couldn't believe we didn't carry, or we only carried 1 at a time. Still, I feel I was able to offer customers something like the level of service that people praise independents for. I just wish I could have had Amazon-like resources at my disposal (special ordering is just such a mess for most people).

Maybe I like Amazon because for me, it's just a useful supplement to my bookstore habit. I live within walking distance of 5 used bookstores, and Barnes & Noble and Borders are both less than 10 minutes' drive away, so I can easily indulge my incessant urge to browse. Much as I love finding cool new titles online, it's even better to grab a book off the shelf and get so absorbed in it that I just can't put it back.
 
I used to shop at a local independent store near my last job that had a pretty fabulous selection of SF/Fantasy (approximate 10 or 11 bookcases worth). There are also a couple of SF/Fantasy stores in my area which is cool, but I never have time to go to them. I have a kid and she is just not into spending hours browsing the book store. The B&N megastore near me has a fabulous kids area, so sometimes we go there.

I like Amazon. It allows me to browse for hours on end, save my choices and then browse some more! I can do this all from the comfort of my home while my kid is entertaining herself. I also use e-bay for rare, first edition or other hard to find books. I have ordered maybe 100 books from e-bay and was only scammed once. Sometimes I have paid too much, but that was my own fault.

Kamakhya
 

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