October Motivational Thread

millymollymo

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All hands on deck! Do not pass Pumpkin Spice Lattes, no kicking through the piles of leaves - only the words matter.
Would you look at that. New Thread and it's only day three of the month. :D Organised or what?

Lets get this done folks!
 
I hit another bump in the road at the end of September. I was really unhappy with the quality of the writing in the first three chapters of the novella I started back up. It was crap. I know a lot of the standard advice is to push through, but I have found that I need my first drafts to be half decent or else I have nothing to work with in the 2nd draft, which makes it feel like another first draft.

So the goal this month, is to rewrite the first chapter in 1st person instead third and see if I like it better. If I do, I will translate that back into 3rd person and see if I like it better than my original attempts.

What I do for the rest of the month hinges on the success of this experiment. If it works I will keep writing it in first person. If it fails, I will pick an older story that needs revision and work on that.
 
I was ready to kick my story into gear the other day, ready to finish it, and as soon as I opened the document I found a big problem. Long story short, I am considering a whole new plan for the book's climax. Again. This will be the third plan since August. :( But I have some great ideas and spent all day yesterday developing them with a friend.

That is my goal for the month: finish the damn outline for the climax.

As soon as that happens I can write the draft for these final chapters.

@millymollymo - what is your goal for the month?
@kmtolan, @JonLaidlow, @Facing, @R.J. @Edward M. Grant @Beth Wagner @norm @Addison Smith @Luka Datas @Andrew Leon Hudson @mistri @WyrvenGuard @Carl L. Sanders -- any writing goals for any of you for the month of October?
 
For the past few weeks I’ve been writing a paragraph or two to a prompt several times a week. I’m looking to continue that, and it would be nice to get a couple actual stories out of it, no matter the length. Otherwise it’s just mental health stuff and submitting!
 
My writing goals are kind of minimalist at the moment. I'll do another Micro-fic, as I'm on course to do one a month throughout 2018, but this month I'll mainly be concentrating on promoting the current anthology's kickstarter (in case my only other subject of posting here passed anyone by!) and trying to find a place to live.

I did manage to fully prepare a novella for self-publishing in September, but since I've not made a start on the sequel story I've got it sat in mothballs until the next is at least rough drafted and I'm at work on a third, in the hope of achieving a relatively timely release schedule. Probably not going to get moving on that until November though, if then!
 
Work is getting better. I was able to transfer 10 accounts to the new girl last week. If I can transfer another 100 I will be back to just doing my job and 1/2 of the accountants. I don't want to get too far ahead of myself but I can see a faint light ahead and so I'm going to give myself a modest goal.

One Micro Fiction
One beta read for a friend.

If I manage more than that - yeah me!
 
@WyrvenGuard - congrats on the baby!

I spent Saturday at a Writing for YA class taught by an author publishing in scifi and fantasy. I had a lot of hope for the class, but i have been writing for 10 years and found it to be very basic, beginner level concepts I have passed by. No, I'm not published yet, but I hope to be sooner than later and I wouldnt want anything i have produced as of yet to be out there in the world. My writing is improving, but it isn't there yet.

Sunday was spent reviewing my book with the 1 take away I did get from the class, which was how I need to increase the tension further leading to my climax as I had been letting it slip away. I think I have resolved that issue to at least a decent level at this point. Now I am just outlinung these final chapters, which I would love to be done with by the end of the week.
 
@WyrvenGuard - I had a lot of hope for the class, but i have been writing for 10 years and found it to be very basic, beginner level concepts I have passed by.

Yeah, I really hate getting spoon fed. See a lot of this at the writer panels during conventions and such, but in their defense it's hard to get into the technical stuff when you don't know the level of your audience. Having written a YA (not by choice, it just came out that way) I'd say the hardest part was trying to figure out what a young one's thought process would be. I suspect kids don't tend to think too far ahead as much as what's going to happen next and how it effects them at that particular moment. Once emotional, everything is either a blinding victory or outright disaster (usually the latter) with little room for moderation. Social responsibility is still being developed. In my work, the character started out very much a woe-is-me self-centered eleven year old and only started thinking more of others toward the latter half of the book when she was in her early to mid-teens.

And that's simply *my* way of handling it, among a myriad of ways. Best advice I can think of is to both observe the little beasties, and remember when you were a little beasty yourself. Not sure at all how you could teach any of this with any effectiveness. So many paths down that same road.
 
Yeah, I really hate getting spoon fed. See a lot of this at the writer panels during conventions and such, but in their defense it's hard to get into the technical stuff when you don't know the level of your audience. Having written a YA (not by choice, it just came out that way) I'd say the hardest part was trying to figure out what a young one's thought process would be. I suspect kids don't tend to think too far ahead as much as what's going to happen next and how it effects them at that particular moment. Once emotional, everything is either a blinding victory or outright disaster (usually the latter) with little room for moderation. Social responsibility is still being developed. In my work, the character started out very much a woe-is-me self-centered eleven year old and only started thinking more of others toward the latter half of the book when she was in her early to mid-teens.

And that's simply *my* way of handling it, among a myriad of ways. Best advice I can think of is to both observe the little beasties, and remember when you were a little beasty yourself. Not sure at all how you could teach any of this with any effectiveness. So many paths down that same road.
I completely agree, Kerry. Anyone and everyone, representing all levels of writing experience and quality could have been there. I am not sure what I would have done in the teacher's shoes. Though, she did start off asking us about that level we were at, so she may have been prepared for a higher level and did not get to do it.

I was hoping to learn something at the class, but was mostly intending to make connections with local writers at my level or higher. I did not find any apart from the teacher and she is far enough above me that I hesitate to try for that connection.

As for writing YA, my stories tend to fall into that market. My characters seem more mature to me than they should probably be but, remembering myself at that age, I thought I was mature and didn't believe I had any of those annoying habits or whiny tendencies that I most certainly possessed.
 
Oh, I also finally got organized enough to have Amazon pay me my accumulated earnings, though they decided to send a cheque even though I gave them my bank account details. Including what they paid me from Kindle Worlds last year, I think that will come to a total of about $3000.

Which isn't a lot, but more than most of the writers I started out with years ago have earned.
 
Oh, I also finally got organized enough to have Amazon pay me my accumulated earnings, though they decided to send a cheque even though I gave them my bank account details. Including what they paid me from Kindle Worlds last year, I think that will come to a total of about $3000.

Which isn't a lot, but more than most of the writers I started out with years ago have earned.
Hey Edward. Congrats on the collective sales. I'm going to be completely nosey here, so feel free to tell me to get bent, but do you have any stats you'd be willing t share? How many sales does that represent over how long? How many individual books? What marketing you used to help drive the sales? Anything else you can think of and are willing to share?

Thanks.

Steve
 
That's across 7 or 8 novels and about two dozen short stories, under this name and some others, over about five years. But about half the money came from one short story and one novel.

Not sure about total sales numbers, but the average profit per sale is probably around $1.25, so I'd guess maybe 2500 copies, with about 25 of them in print and the rest ebooks.

Marketing's a tricky one, because I've been writing books with a pretty small market and there's no easy way to get them in front of the people who might want to read them. I have been dabbling with Amazon ads for Hellhounds, but they're expensive and while it does get the right people looking at the book, I haven't really seen much difference in the sales numbers.

That's why I'm planning to write books with a bigger market in the future.
 
It's probably also worth noting that it was about three years before I reached the $100 total that Amazon required back then as a minimum to pay out. Then I got stuck in the whole US tax ID thing (having to either fly somewhere that I could get one in person or send my passport to America) before the IRS stopped requiring it.

Otherwise I could have collected the money a while back.
 
I have this next week off work and only 5 chapters left in my WIP to outline. I want I want I want to finish it this week. And as soon as I finish the outline I can write the draft for the last 1/3 of the book. And if I can get myself into gear and finish the outline and write at the same pace I was keeping the first 2 weeks of August, well, then I can finish this whole book this week.

So yeah, that's my goal!
 

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