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No, no, don't go backwards. Your improved version was improved. That you have Armaggedon and the Seventh Seal, demons, etc., does not make it Christian fantasy for mainly the Christian market. Judeo-Christian mythology is used as often as other kinds of myth in fantasy. I'm going to ask you a bunch of questions. (You'll see in the Infamous Query Letter thread that this is what I do.)
"With our world torn by war and on the brink of Armageddon,"
This is the part where we need more context. Armageddon they'll get, but what kind? (In SFF, there are many different kinds.) You need one sentence to give us the context of the world situation in how it is different from our current world. (Yes, you can do it in one sentence.) This is our world slightly in the future or an alternate version of our world, so that can be made a little clearer what area you're in. Since it is a lot of mythologies, you may want to go movie preview-ish, as in starting with a line like: "In an Earth where many gods roam and magic has cast the world into war that tips close to Armageddon..." There's a reason they do that in trailers -- it tells the audience where they are, going in.
"blind gunslinger Edward Grimshaw has one desire: vengeance for the death of his love at the hands of her brother, crooked cop Robert Justice. Seeking the support of Samuel Lucas, ace district attorney in the largest metropolis in America, he is instead unjustly imprisoned by the very man he seeks to destroy."
Okay, we have a blind -- blind! interesting, is he really blind? How did that happen? -- gunslinger, which is the Old West, but we have a contemporary district attorney in a city, an "ace." So how exactly does this work? Is Grimshaw really a gunslinger or was he a cop or a criminal enforcer before going blind? Besides that, these sentences work well.
"Liberated by Alexandre Penn, a dedicated constable" -- Robert is a cop, but Alexandre is a constable -- is Alexandre British?
"tasked with stopping Samuel," -- wow, Samuel is a bad guy in league with Robert? Guess Edward guessed wrong. This might actually be important in the story.
"Robert, and the rest of the newly formed Revelation Revolution," -- What is a Revelation Revolution? This is a fantasy element, so it needs to be clear.
"creepy cabbie Melvyn reveals Alexandre’s secret lineage and a plan of action to stop the revolution." -- You can kind of let it go without explaining why Melvyn knows Alexandre's lineage in the query letter, but Melvyn needs his own sentence, such as: "Edward is unexpectedly liberated by Alexandre Penn, a police detective seeking to bring down Robert, Samuel and their allies before they accomplish their goal of breaking the Norse gods' Seventh Seal, opening the gate to the realm of demons. Penn and Grimshaw are aided by creepy cabbie Melvyn, who reveals Alexandre's secret lineage and a plan to stop Samuel's group."
(I am of course wildly guessing here, but you can correct as needed. Notice I'm packing info into each sentence -- this gives context as to how the world works and what character goals are. I'm guessing Melvyn is part of some other group.)
"With Alexandre seeking the sacred sword Heligswer, the revolution acquires the spiteful spear Oheligbur and shatters the Seventh Seal, unleashing a malevolent mafia of ancient antiquity."
Well no, Alexandre is not working for the bad guys, so you need a different sentence structure here. Alexandre has to go look for the sacred sword Heligswer, which I'm guessing is Norse, because that will do something -- what? Does Edward go with him or do something else? Does Edward try to stop the bad guys from getting the spear Oheligbur and fails?
And yeah, I'm afraid you have to lose the alliteration here unless the book is a comic fantasy, which it doesn't sound like it is. Malevolent mafia of ancient antiquity sounds like you are doing Monty Python (or Sylvester the cat,) and so that's how they'll read it. Which may mean they won't want it if it doesn't sound terribly funny in plot to them, which it does not. Mostly, you need to make clear what the demons are, what they do to the world when released into it. In one sentence. (Yes, you can do it in one sentence.)
"Lacking the power to stop the mafia themselves, Grimshaw and Alexandre are elected" -- elected by who?
"to endanger the existence of our waning world by pleading the angels of Atlantis to settle their war with the demonic Diaboli once and for all."
Okay, the germ here is good; it's the context that is once again missing. You have a lot of different myths in here, and that polygut nature needs to be clear. Angels means usually Christian angels, servants of the Christian Jesus Christ/Yahweh, unless otherwise specified. But these are angels in Atlantis, the legendary, pre-Judea-Christian city. And it sounds like it's the Atlanteans who created all the war, and Samuel's group threw in their lot with the demons to get power and defeat the Atlanteans.
So basically, you're refusing to tell them what the story is, so then the story is confusing and less interesting. You're doing that because like most authors, you see the story as very big and sprawling. The story isn't actually big and sprawling, though. It's a straight thriller in a setting. Clarify the setting, give them the thriller plot as you do it, with the main characters' stories in place (Edward seeks revenge for his love, then seeks to stop those who killed her from their goals; Alexandre is a chosen one descended from, um, heroes or something, and then these Atlanteans do something that could either work or wipe out existence, or rather, get Alexandre and Edward to do it. How that works we're not sure, but you are. So how would you explain it? In a sentence or two. (Yes, you can do it in a sentence or two.)
Brevity without clarity is useless. (And clever wordage even more so.) Clarity is possible without writing fifty pages of explanation. Do it in two paragraphs of several sentences. You're on the right track. Stop holding back on the story, and on these cool characters you invented.
"With our world torn by war and on the brink of Armageddon,"
This is the part where we need more context. Armageddon they'll get, but what kind? (In SFF, there are many different kinds.) You need one sentence to give us the context of the world situation in how it is different from our current world. (Yes, you can do it in one sentence.) This is our world slightly in the future or an alternate version of our world, so that can be made a little clearer what area you're in. Since it is a lot of mythologies, you may want to go movie preview-ish, as in starting with a line like: "In an Earth where many gods roam and magic has cast the world into war that tips close to Armageddon..." There's a reason they do that in trailers -- it tells the audience where they are, going in.
"blind gunslinger Edward Grimshaw has one desire: vengeance for the death of his love at the hands of her brother, crooked cop Robert Justice. Seeking the support of Samuel Lucas, ace district attorney in the largest metropolis in America, he is instead unjustly imprisoned by the very man he seeks to destroy."
Okay, we have a blind -- blind! interesting, is he really blind? How did that happen? -- gunslinger, which is the Old West, but we have a contemporary district attorney in a city, an "ace." So how exactly does this work? Is Grimshaw really a gunslinger or was he a cop or a criminal enforcer before going blind? Besides that, these sentences work well.
"Liberated by Alexandre Penn, a dedicated constable" -- Robert is a cop, but Alexandre is a constable -- is Alexandre British?
"tasked with stopping Samuel," -- wow, Samuel is a bad guy in league with Robert? Guess Edward guessed wrong. This might actually be important in the story.
"Robert, and the rest of the newly formed Revelation Revolution," -- What is a Revelation Revolution? This is a fantasy element, so it needs to be clear.
"creepy cabbie Melvyn reveals Alexandre’s secret lineage and a plan of action to stop the revolution." -- You can kind of let it go without explaining why Melvyn knows Alexandre's lineage in the query letter, but Melvyn needs his own sentence, such as: "Edward is unexpectedly liberated by Alexandre Penn, a police detective seeking to bring down Robert, Samuel and their allies before they accomplish their goal of breaking the Norse gods' Seventh Seal, opening the gate to the realm of demons. Penn and Grimshaw are aided by creepy cabbie Melvyn, who reveals Alexandre's secret lineage and a plan to stop Samuel's group."
(I am of course wildly guessing here, but you can correct as needed. Notice I'm packing info into each sentence -- this gives context as to how the world works and what character goals are. I'm guessing Melvyn is part of some other group.)
"With Alexandre seeking the sacred sword Heligswer, the revolution acquires the spiteful spear Oheligbur and shatters the Seventh Seal, unleashing a malevolent mafia of ancient antiquity."
Well no, Alexandre is not working for the bad guys, so you need a different sentence structure here. Alexandre has to go look for the sacred sword Heligswer, which I'm guessing is Norse, because that will do something -- what? Does Edward go with him or do something else? Does Edward try to stop the bad guys from getting the spear Oheligbur and fails?
And yeah, I'm afraid you have to lose the alliteration here unless the book is a comic fantasy, which it doesn't sound like it is. Malevolent mafia of ancient antiquity sounds like you are doing Monty Python (or Sylvester the cat,) and so that's how they'll read it. Which may mean they won't want it if it doesn't sound terribly funny in plot to them, which it does not. Mostly, you need to make clear what the demons are, what they do to the world when released into it. In one sentence. (Yes, you can do it in one sentence.)
"Lacking the power to stop the mafia themselves, Grimshaw and Alexandre are elected" -- elected by who?
"to endanger the existence of our waning world by pleading the angels of Atlantis to settle their war with the demonic Diaboli once and for all."
Okay, the germ here is good; it's the context that is once again missing. You have a lot of different myths in here, and that polygut nature needs to be clear. Angels means usually Christian angels, servants of the Christian Jesus Christ/Yahweh, unless otherwise specified. But these are angels in Atlantis, the legendary, pre-Judea-Christian city. And it sounds like it's the Atlanteans who created all the war, and Samuel's group threw in their lot with the demons to get power and defeat the Atlanteans.
So basically, you're refusing to tell them what the story is, so then the story is confusing and less interesting. You're doing that because like most authors, you see the story as very big and sprawling. The story isn't actually big and sprawling, though. It's a straight thriller in a setting. Clarify the setting, give them the thriller plot as you do it, with the main characters' stories in place (Edward seeks revenge for his love, then seeks to stop those who killed her from their goals; Alexandre is a chosen one descended from, um, heroes or something, and then these Atlanteans do something that could either work or wipe out existence, or rather, get Alexandre and Edward to do it. How that works we're not sure, but you are. So how would you explain it? In a sentence or two. (Yes, you can do it in a sentence or two.)
Brevity without clarity is useless. (And clever wordage even more so.) Clarity is possible without writing fifty pages of explanation. Do it in two paragraphs of several sentences. You're on the right track. Stop holding back on the story, and on these cool characters you invented.

