The best advice I ever got!

Brilliant advice!!! I have been telling that to my kids forever!!! You pick up most of the errors, first of all, and you get a really accurate sense of the flow of the story as well. If it doesn't sound good, it probably won't read well.
 
I agree.

Reading the work out loud forced you to concentrate on each and every word, rather than just glossing over things. It can be slow, but I think you can pick up on all sorts of errors that way.
 
funky_fantasist said:
can I GIVE some advice? (I mean feel free to ignore it if you like! LOL!) :D

Of course you can give advise. You're published, most of us are not. Any advise is more than welcome here.

This is great advise, and I used it today. This is already one of my many methods of picking apart complex or awkward sentences to make them sound and read right.

Got any more little gems for us?
 
Erm...

...that's about the extent of my 'wisdom' I'm afraid! :o

It is one of those things that seems blindingly obvious once you get in the habit of doing it - my poor old hubbie is a bit of a captive audience. . .

Cheers guys - (off to bed - it's pretty late here)

Funky
:D
 
I write with collaborators a lot, folks who live in different states than I do (I live in the state of perpetual confusion, actually), so we talk on the phone a lot and I got in the habit of reading new scenes to them and vice versa and it did help--mostly, it helped me proofread, but it also helped me find awkward phrasing, that sort of thing. Now I do it by myself, but I feel a bit self-conscious. I think I need to pretend I'm talking on the phone. :rolleyes:
 
I'd like to do that. I need to find some people who want to write a novel. Any offers? :)
 
yah, i guess id better put down the books for awhile. i spent a bit locked in my room today, writing.....with verious music; (everything from celtic to Korn) and silence, and managed to come up with a pathetic beggining to a chapter ive been fighting with.....anyway, when i became stumped beyond belife, i picked up WoT and read (just for a few minutes, i said.....) for the next five hours or so......needless to say, ive finnished that book.......but its a terrible addiction....
 
Rira said:
yah, i guess id better put down the books for awhile. i spent a bit locked in my room today, writing.....with verious music; (everything from celtic to Korn) and silence, and managed to come up with a pathetic beggining to a chapter ive been fighting with.....anyway, when i became stumped beyond belife, i picked up WoT and read (just for a few minutes, i said.....) for the next five hours or so......needless to say, ive finnished that book.......but its a terrible addiction....

I've had this happen before. I wound up reading Lemony Snicket's A Bad Begining. Good book. Not great, but good. Took me about 45 minutes to read and I wanted to read some more. What did I do? I knew if I read anything bigger, I'd be reading all day, so I posted here. Don't recall off hand what I posted, but I like to post here to get the 'juices flowing'. Once I've posted a hefty post here --I wonder if I can keep this one short?-- I write anything that comes to mind. Last time I came up with the cat story for exercise 6. Well, my wife thought it was funny. Politically incorrect, but funny. Then I wrote balloons (another funny story).

I guess what I'm saying is reading is ok, but don't let yourself get too distracted. Find out what it is about what you're reading that is sucking you into the world and figure out how to incorporate those pieces into your own work. This isn't as easy as it sounds.

With the scene you're stuck on, try to figure out why you're stuck. Do you not like the setting? Do you not like one of the characters? Are you forcing the situation to happen when you should just let it flow?

Try what Funky Deb posted, but you'll be doing this without reading what you wrote. Stand up, close your eyes, and act out the scene. This sounds goofy, but your own voice will sometimes guide you through a scene. I suggest doing this alone as people will look at you funny if you start talking in a differnt voice.

When you do this, try to imagine the room and its furnishings. How are the characters holding themselves? How do they say their words (muttering, shouting, laughing). Get into your characters and get into the scene. You should be able to (now) stand next to the characters and watch what they're doing.

Open your eyes and start typing what happened. Doesn't matter if it's good or not. Doesn't matter if you're going to keep it, edit it out, or chop it to pieces. Write the scene. If nothing else, you'll gain a deeper understanding of your characters. You will be able to associate with them better and the better you can do that, the better you'll be able to write them.

I was going to keep this one short, wasn't I? Harumph. Guess I'll go write something now. It's July 1st and Alien Skin Mag is open for submissions once again. :)
 
lol....thanks...actually, i think i will try that.... my cat will find it amusing.... but he can help me. im gonna go and give it some more work....maybe i can finnish the chapter....it will be easier as i get further along. it the beginning that is difficult for me....but i have little problem with the middle.....thanx and ton, and good night, all!
 
I find the most effective way is to simply think about the scenes and picture them in your head. It may seem obvious, but I find that when I am writing, I'm on automatic. My best ideas come when I am away from the moniter. It helps listening to music too. Thats my two cents anyway. Muse on your story.
 
I was watching M*A*S*H last night, and it was the episode where Radar
takes a correspondence course in how to be a writer. Col Potter gave him what I think is actually some damn good advice:

"You sound like you swallowed a dictionary. Just be yourself."
 
I agree. Sometimes writers just get kicks from being wordy. Btw, Msylvia, this is a fun chase round the posts :)
 
Read until you know what kind of story you like, then write the a story that you would like to hear and I mean hear. I cannot say enough about reading your work out loud. Everyone who mentioned this trick has learned that, " the best stories are those which can be read out loud, easily understood and sound right".

The best advice I ever got was answering questions about my work after I had read it to a trusted listener.

BF
 
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I agree. Reading aloud - or at least imagining the work being read aloud -
has done wonders for my work. It makes you very aware of the rhythm of your words, and adds another level into the rewriting process.



Not sure how well that would work in a box, though. :)
 
Briar Flea said:
Read until you know what kind of story you like, then write the a story that you would like to hear and I mean hear.

Don't know if I agree with that. The sort of stories I love reading I am crap at writing. The sort of stories I love writing I myself would never buy from a bookstore. But maybe that will change ....

The best advice I had - well, it wasn't really advice so much as a forceful shove in the right direction. It was to let somebody read your work! Somebody who's opinion you trust and who knows at least a little of what you're looking for (people who say "it's good" or "i like it" without elaboration are quite useless, even if it is an ego-boost). Even better if you're getting graded on it, cause then you might find out that you're not as crap at writing as you thought you were. (thank you university creative writing class!)
 
I read my writing aloud but only as a form of proofreading. It's the best way for me to catch typos and similar mistakes, such as missing or wrong words. But then, I'm the sort of reader who "hears" in my head when I read, so I usually get rhythms, of my work and of the published books I read, etc. But there's something a bit more interactive, for me at least, of reading aloud. When I read silently, my brain fixes what might be wrong, but forcing the words out as speech seems to force more discipline on the process or some such and my brain can't make the adjustments, so if there's a mistake, I'll stumble over it and catch it.

As for writing what I enjoy reading, that's not relevant for me. I like a wide variety of books/stories and writing styles and I can't or am not interested in writing like most of them. I have my own stories and my own voice, it seems, and trying to vary my narrative voice is akin to torture. It usually reverts to what comes naturally in 2-3 paragraphs.

So I read widely, and write what I want. :cool:
 

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