The setup is great, but yeah, 20-30 minutes in your like its either going to be X or Y, and yup, its one of them. Certainly nothing amazing, but at least the technological setting (not the technology itself, but the application of it) was both new to me and kind of neat. It was a very good idea / setting for a story, but nonetheless a so so story.
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The setup is great, but yeah, 20-30 minutes in your like its either going to be X or Y, and yup, its one of them. Certainly nothing amazing, but at least the technological setting (not the technology itself, but the application of it) was both new to me and kind of neat. It was a very good idea / setting for a story, but nonetheless a so so story.
I would be a terrible critic. I am blessed/cursed(?) so that I enjoy most things. I do respect people who are critical of things that I like though. I do agree that this was not the strongest episode, but all in all, I liked it.
I am cursed with being terribly critical. My wife is too; makes it hard for us to agree to watch stuff. I did see value in this episode though -- the setting was very innovative, at least to me. I didn't mind watching it. Maisy Day, however, I just didn't like.
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Episodes 1 and 2. Gripping so far.
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Same, just finished Ep 2. Idris Elba is usually good!
This looks good. This is the first I've heard of it, so I looked it up. They are, unfortunately, going to slow roll the rest of the episodes.
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a ST: SNW thread! Odd. I enjoyed episode three enough I wrote a casual blog:
I’ve been enjoying Star Trek Strange New Worlds, but in the latest episode they hit upon the true and original spirit of Star Trek. The episode had humour, action, but also deep feelings and tragedy. It had in all, including some science so laughable it’s forgivable.
I do have one big disappointment with the series, the choice of actress for Uhura. Perhaps it’s just hard to live up to the awesome Zoe Saldaña and of course Nichelle Nichols. The space-fear the writers chose to give her in the beginning didn’t help.
*SPOILERS FROM HERE*
La ‘An really came to life here for me. I’ve always liked her, and loved the first officer. I enjoyed the look at her day-to-day life on board, and laughed a bit at the scenarios. However, as a black belt in karate, I find her punching style puzzling. It looked like she would injure her shoulders in no time. In the method I’m used to, you punch with your whole body, keeping the shoulders fairly even and the back straight. You drive in with power from the hips and leg motion.
I enjoyed the connection to the time-war in Enterprise, even though I wasn’t sure that whole thing should have existed. I love fantasy, but Star Trek is supposed to be science fiction, and boxes to zap you into another time stretch the limit for me.
I loved the double entendre “You have to get to the bridge.” Well done! Her reaction when she saw who was on the bridge was great.
This alternate Kirk is a little different from the classic one, but after a bit I decided it was realistic since he grew up and lived quite differently. This one was more sarcastic, and perhaps more selfish minded for a time when his impulse was to resist righting the universe because he would cease to exist. It was great fun watching the shopping and chess games. They got the smugness and arrogance down for this Kirk. Yay, a Kirk who finally learned the Vulcan nerve pinch! LOL toilet plomeek soup.
I predicted that Pelia wouldn’t have the know-how to help them. Even the one in the right time line didn’t seem like she should be technically inclined. How would one in the past have the skills?
How well Kirk knows himself, saying one timeline wouldn’t be big enough for two of him. I wasn’t surprised at the tragic death, though I wished it didn’t have to happen. This Kirk living in the other timeline would be a great alteration to the future. The Temporal agent wouldn’t allow it even if he made it there. I reminded myself it wasn’t a real loss, as he would have been lost anyway.
LOL, the classic Kirk kiss! It seemed just right, except that, as my husband pointed out, traditionally it fell about a third of the way into the episode. The actor managed to look a lot like the “real” Kirk at that and other times. Wonderful!
I do have reservations about possibly messing with cannon. In Space Seed, Kirk et al didn’t mention anything about augments still being in existence before they woke some up. Spock was working with one in this take on TOS history!
There is no Trek episode that is truly perfect. Choose any episode, from TOS on down, and you can find problems. However, what makes a great episode is the fun, optimism, bits of humour, just enough action, and most importantly, the sense of wonder and character drama. Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow had enough of all that to push it close to some of the classic greats such as City on the Edge of Forever.
A catch-up comment on the season opener. They did introduce some glitches in the classic universe. Galileo 7 was supposed to be Spock’s big first command, in which he had to learn how to deal with being in charge of humans with emotions. This Spock seemed to have no one being bothered by is making coldly logical choices. They seem to have advanced Spock’s learning curve beyond where he was at in TOS.
I could go on, but you get the idea. A great episode in a good, and, it seems, nicely evolving series.
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I’ve been enjoying Star Trek Strange New Worlds, but in the latest episode they hit upon the true and original spirit of Star Trek. The episode had humour, action, but also deep feelings and tragedy. It had in all, including some science so laughable it’s forgivable.
I do have one big disappointment with the series, the choice of actress for Uhura. Perhaps it’s just hard to live up to the awesome Zoe Saldaña and of course Nichelle Nichols. The space-fear the writers chose to give her in the beginning didn’t help.
*SPOILERS FROM HERE*
La ‘An really came to life here for me. I’ve always liked her, and loved the first officer. I enjoyed the look at her day-to-day life on board, and laughed a bit at the scenarios. However, as a black belt in karate, I find her punching style puzzling. It looked like she would injure her shoulders in no time. In the method I’m used to, you punch with your whole body, keeping the shoulders fairly even and the back straight. You drive in with power from the hips and leg motion.
I enjoyed the connection to the time-war in Enterprise, even though I wasn’t sure that whole thing should have existed. I love fantasy, but Star Trek is supposed to be science fiction, and boxes to zap you into another time stretch the limit for me.
I loved the double entendre “You have to get to the bridge.” Well done! Her reaction when she saw who was on the bridge was great.
This alternate Kirk is a little different from the classic one, but after a bit I decided it was realistic since he grew up and lived quite differently. This one was more sarcastic, and perhaps more selfish minded for a time when his impulse was to resist righting the universe because he would cease to exist. It was great fun watching the shopping and chess games. They got the smugness and arrogance down for this Kirk. Yay, a Kirk who finally learned the Vulcan nerve pinch! LOL toilet plomeek soup.
I predicted that Pelia wouldn’t have the know-how to help them. Even the one in the right time line didn’t seem like she should be technically inclined. How would one in the past have the skills?
How well Kirk knows himself, saying one timeline wouldn’t be big enough for two of him. I wasn’t surprised at the tragic death, though I wished it didn’t have to happen. This Kirk living in the other timeline would be a great alteration to the future. The Temporal agent wouldn’t allow it even if he made it there. I reminded myself it wasn’t a real loss, as he would have been lost anyway.
LOL, the classic Kirk kiss! It seemed just right, except that, as my husband pointed out, traditionally it fell about a third of the way into the episode. The actor managed to look a lot like the “real” Kirk at that and other times. Wonderful!
I do have reservations about possibly messing with cannon. In Space Seed, Kirk et al didn’t mention anything about augments still being in existence before they woke some up. Spock was working with one in this take on TOS history!
There is no Trek episode that is truly perfect. Choose any episode, from TOS on down, and you can find problems. However, what makes a great episode is the fun, optimism, bits of humour, just enough action, and most importantly, the sense of wonder and character drama. Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow had enough of all that to push it close to some of the classic greats such as City on the Edge of Forever.
A catch-up comment on the season opener. They did introduce some glitches in the classic universe. Galileo 7 was supposed to be Spock’s big first command, in which he had to learn how to deal with being in charge of humans with emotions. This Spock seemed to have no one being bothered by is making coldly logical choices. They seem to have advanced Spock’s learning curve beyond where he was at in TOS.
I could go on, but you get the idea. A great episode in a good, and, it seems, nicely evolving series.
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Wendy, thanks for the interesting review. I had only looked at the trailers for this series as I make lists of shows that look interesting under what streaming service they are on.
(btw for folks with iOS devices the included basic iOS apps ‘Notes’ is an incredibly powerful and useful app even in my reduced retired lifestyle ) When I have a bunch I then subscribe to the service of a month and watch them.
The combo of inflation and retirement levels of income means that if for example, I want to watch this series. I will wait for a full season of episodes to become available along with two or three others of interest on this show's channel and then pull the trigger and spend that month watching everything of interest there.
This is cumbersome but it does work I did have to be proactive about those cancellations and I did sometimes forget so now I subscribe and wait for them to let me in and right then I cancel they have a month's worth of my money so I run to the end of that 30 days. This is all after I have used their one-month free feature which in most cases I have.
It is far too easy to have subscriptions to apps and other software today. while I think that with a steady paycheck, these auto-pay items are ok it is amazing how the pile of small $$££€€ going out of either your bank account or being added to a credit card balance adds up.
(btw for folks with iOS devices the included basic iOS apps ‘Notes’ is an incredibly powerful and useful app even in my reduced retired lifestyle ) When I have a bunch I then subscribe to the service of a month and watch them.
The combo of inflation and retirement levels of income means that if for example, I want to watch this series. I will wait for a full season of episodes to become available along with two or three others of interest on this show's channel and then pull the trigger and spend that month watching everything of interest there.
This is cumbersome but it does work I did have to be proactive about those cancellations and I did sometimes forget so now I subscribe and wait for them to let me in and right then I cancel they have a month's worth of my money so I run to the end of that 30 days. This is all after I have used their one-month free feature which in most cases I have.
It is far too easy to have subscriptions to apps and other software today. while I think that with a steady paycheck, these auto-pay items are ok it is amazing how the pile of small $$££€€ going out of either your bank account or being added to a credit card balance adds up.
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Good point: you could always start one, Wendy!
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I thought of it, but I was sure there was already one I couldn't find.
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Good idea! I've gone the route of trying not to know what I'm missing on Crave, Amazon prime, Disney+ (though we did have it free for a while). But if you're organized, your way is great.
The same channel might still be running other newer Trek series. I'm not sure if you want to see all of all of them, but the final season of Picard should be seen. All of them have some good in them, though some frustrations too as I recall.
I watch the treks on CTV Scifi in Canada. My Rogers cable does have a flex package in which you can switch what channels you subscribe to. I think once you choose a channel you have to stick with it for a month before you can switch it out.
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I intensely dislike the whole subscription model of access as it is used in the modern world. It dates back to the science fiction book club of the 1960s and 70s. If you were not organised, which I was not as a somewhat callow youth, you ended up with a shelf of books you did not want. (in fairness, I discovered a few new authors to me via this system.)
And not just in the realm of media access. I was one of the alpha testers for the Knoll brothers for the grayscale raster photo editor called at the time "Display in the mid-1980s as they developed what later became Photoshop. After they sold the marketing of it to Adobe it, I was kept on the free distribution list and received beta versions and the next released version, so I continued reporting bugs after it was sold outright. This free access stopped, and that was fine. The focus shifted to getting out a Windows version. And I would buy a new version when it had a feature I wanted. Then came the change to a subscription model while I was retiring. I kept using the last version until, to keep using it, I would have had to dedicate old hardware with an old pre-shift to the UNIX foundation for the Macintosh OS version to the place where it could be used, so I had to leave it behind.
If you are not very organized, it is all too easy to be subjected to the depletion of your bank account by lots of these $9.99 (plus tax) "services".
And not just in the realm of media access. I was one of the alpha testers for the Knoll brothers for the grayscale raster photo editor called at the time "Display in the mid-1980s as they developed what later became Photoshop. After they sold the marketing of it to Adobe it, I was kept on the free distribution list and received beta versions and the next released version, so I continued reporting bugs after it was sold outright. This free access stopped, and that was fine. The focus shifted to getting out a Windows version. And I would buy a new version when it had a feature I wanted. Then came the change to a subscription model while I was retiring. I kept using the last version until, to keep using it, I would have had to dedicate old hardware with an old pre-shift to the UNIX foundation for the Macintosh OS version to the place where it could be used, so I had to leave it behind.
If you are not very organized, it is all too easy to be subjected to the depletion of your bank account by lots of these $9.99 (plus tax) "services".
We usually let half of a season or more play on before subscribing to TV shows. Like Yellowstone, Tulsa King or any of the spinoffs. Then drop the sub when those finish.
Everything else is just Prime & Sling. We'd probably let Prime drop as well...except that is where I buy / or rent books from, lol.
Everything else is just Prime & Sling. We'd probably let Prime drop as well...except that is where I buy / or rent books from, lol.
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I‘ve finished Silo on AppleTV+ and I have to say I’m impressed. Rebecca Ferguson has really captured the character of Juliette (Jules) from Hugh Howey‘s novel Wool. Although it was necessarily adapted for TV, it stays very close to the spirit of the novel. It ends somewhat before the novel does, but at a perfect point for the season, with an amazing reveal in the last scene. This is just as dark, gritty, and claustrophobic as it should be. Definitely recommended!
I‘ve finished Silo on AppleTV+ and I have to say I’m impressed. Rebecca Ferguson has really captured the character of Juliette (Jules) from Hugh Howey‘s novel Wool. Although it was necessarily adapted for TV, it stays very close to the spirit of the novel. It ends somewhat before the novel does, but at a perfect point for the season, with an amazing reveal in the last scene. This is just as dark, gritty, and claustrophobic as it should be. Definitely recommended!
I like it too Prairie Dog. I haven't read the novels, yet. Do you think it would be worth reading after watching the show?
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Sure! The novels are slightly different, but they also let you into the thoughts and motivations of the characters.
I just finished the second novel Shift which explains the backstory of the world depicted, then merges with the primary narrative, and a secondary narrative from the first novel. I thought it was a really masterful work. Wool is a more straightforward narrative journey.
It will be interesting to see where they go with Silo. Will they continue straight on with the unfinished portion of Jules story from Wool? Or will they start with some of Shift? We‘ll see in a year or so I guess…
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I’m working my way through the first part of Season 3 of The Witcher which will be the last season with Henry Cavil playing the titular role. It features the dynamic trio of Geralt, Yennefer, and Ciri as they try to stay alive while protecting and training Ciri. This season appears to have something serious planned for Ciri, but Yennefer seems to have her own character arc underway.
I forget how ultra-violent this show can be. The opening scene of this season included a group of thugs looking for Geralt, they find him waiting for them, behind the building, then the slaughter begins.
Jaskier has a large supporting role this season, being involved in lots of scenes, including many featuring him shirtless. I‘m not sure why they are exhibiting his defined musculature and abundant chest hair, but if you’re into that there’s lots of it. Seems a bit well developed for a bard, but given what he’s been through maybe he’s been training?
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Agree, one of my favourites this year easily.
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