What's the worst fantasy novel ever IYO?

The worst fantasy is the books I did not get past the first chapter. I can't remember any of them. Over the years there has been many. These days with the internet, it is a little easier to get opinions from others so there are not so many of these. But back in the eighties when I would just pick a book of the shelf. there were lots of duds.
Gor - I think of this as more scifi. I read them back in my Tarzan reading early teen years and even during puberty I thought the later Gor books were rediculous.
The Eddings series could be the worst which I have actually read (except Belgarad which I like but still think is pretty poor).
 
Duanawitch said:
Hmmmmm...

I personally found it incredibly difficult to make my way through James Clemen's Banned and the Banished series...all those Wi'tch Fire, Wi'tch Storm things. :confused: At the end of book two I threw it down, annoyed I'd wasted sooooooooo much time on it. For a start what is that pretentious apostrophe in witch all about? How does it change pronunciation or meaning in any way? But, more seriously, I was left feeling that I'd written these novels myself. When I was 14 and believed in my own skills as a fantasy writer. Thankfully, no more. :)

I agree, but the reviews on amazon said that the next one was really good. So I decided to read it, to see if there was an improvement in quality. The first time I picked it up, I read about a page before deciding that it wasn't worth the effort. Then I came back to it, decided that it would only take me a few days anyway, so I read it. And it was even worse than the book before.
 
C'mon people, is anyone seriousely suggesting the Bakers Boy, Ill made mute and Tehanu could be close to the worst fantasy ever?

IMO JV Jones is an excellent writer with a keen witt and great characterisation. Even if the Bakers Boy was rehashed, its still more fun to read than most fantasy novels.

Cecillia Dart Thorntons trilogy didn't exactly bowl me over. Yes, the plot was sickely, but the creativity, originality and flair for world building is plain for anyone to see. Also, her writing conveys such beautifull imagery that few other writers could equal.

And Tehanu was great. Maybe its an acquired taste, but its much more thought provoking than her previous EarthSea books, and was much more exciting than the super dull 2nd and 3rd books.

Worst fantasy indeed....
 
i enjoyed Bakers boy it was good i dont know about the others because i havent read them and dont plan on since you say there crap
 
owleye said:
i enjoyed Bakers boy it was good i dont know about the others because i havent read them and dont plan on since you say there crap

If you enjoyed, why not read on, even if one or two people say that they're crap? That seems odd.
 
hmmm if i see them in the shops ill see what the back says then i will decide :p thats how i usually decide
 
<whispers> Don't tell anyone else, but sometimes publishers aren't 100% honest about the books they're trying to sell.
 
owleye said:
i enjoyed Bakers boy it was good i dont know about the others because i havent read them and dont plan on since you say there crap
I hope your not saying I said they're crap. They're not, thats the point. Ill made mute and Tehanu are well worth a look. Especialy Tehanu, possibly my favourite Earthsea book...
 
Iskaral Pust said:
<whispers> Don't tell anyone else, but sometimes publishers aren't 100% honest about the books they're trying to sell.

*SNORT*

You just now noticed? :rolleyes: :p
 
Iskaral Pust said:
<whispers> Don't tell anyone else, but sometimes publishers aren't 100% honest about the books they're trying to sell.

not really but its funny when you notice what they've done :p
 
I usually find Chris Claremont's Shadow War trilogy lumped in peoples' "worst ever" lists. Since it's one of my favorite series of all time, I really can't understand this. (and I can't stand the usual dreck from Goodkind, Goodkind, Feist, and Goodkind) Has anyone on this post read these novels? There's some genuinely beautiful imagery throughout the three of them, and issues like racism, tolerance, alternate realities, and music are all lumped together into something that, in my humble opinion, stands out as a truly unique work of art. But, everyone else seems to disagree with me. Claremont's prose IS a little odd...but it creates images in such a way that simple description can't possibly hope to match. He actually reminds me of Guy Gavriel Kay if GGK had been writing X-Men comics for the past twenty years. Now that would be something....
 
Duanawitch said:
Hmmmmm...

I personally found it incredibly difficult to make my way through James Clemen's Banned and the Banished series...all those Wi'tch Fire, Wi'tch Storm things. :confused: At the end of book two I threw it down, annoyed I'd wasted sooooooooo much time on it. For a start what is that pretentious apostrophe in witch all about? How does it change pronunciation or meaning in any way? But, more seriously, I was left feeling that I'd written these novels myself. When I was 14 and believed in my own skills as a fantasy writer. Thankfully, no more. :)

Same here on the throwing the book down midway through book 2. I just didn't CARE about the characters or the situitation. The ideas were pretty cool, but the story just plodded along.
 
I don't know, if I have already mentioned this , but Valery Leith's The Company of Glass, ,The Riddled Night and The Way of the Rose are possibly the worse trilogy ever. For some reason after reading the first book,The Company, I bought the other two at a used bookstore for like a dollar and read them. I guess that I couldn't believe how dense and confusing a story could be and a group of characters that no one but their creator could love made it to be published.

Her ideas were strong, but the execution, for me, was so hackeyed that I even now can't really recall anything from the novel; except loathing.
 
I read most of the Shadow War Trilogy by Chris Clairemont. I really enjoyed the first book, the second book started out great but went quickly down hill about half way through and the third book continued the descent. I would have to say that this series was one of the most dissapointing because of that. I couldn't even finish reading the last book because I had gotten to the point that I didn't even care for the characters anymore or about whatever their "quest" was.

The absolute worst book I read would have to be The Redemption of Althalus by David Eddings.
 
I agree, Redemption by Eddings is really high on my list of 'tree wasters' out there.
And I liked Eddings prior stuff.
 
Worst Ever Fantasy

AZNdragon said:
[...] i read a very interesting e-mail i found which i'll copy here now:

THE BELGARIAD. A great big quintology about a farm boy who learns
that he is really the heir to the throne and possesses tremendous
magical power. Naturally, he must claim the throne, start a war, and
quest across the country to stop a dark lord from doing bad stuff. He
is accompanied by many colorful companions from various countries,
most of whom are stereotyped examples of their cultures: ie, all
Tolnedrans are savvy and greedy, all Ulgos are fanatically religious,
all the horse-nomad people are austere and bloodthirsty in a noble
way, etc.

THE MALLOREAN. A time loop causes the events of the Belgariad to occur
all over again, to mostly the same people. This is not my sarcastic
way of implying that THE MALLOREAN is a scene-by-scene retread of THE
BELGARIAD. It is actually explained in the text that this is what's
going on. The audacity of this excuse to write the same quintology
twice leaves me breathless.

Eddings has written other books, which I have avoided like the plague
I suspect them to be. My comments below refer only to the quintologies
mentioned above.

When people refer to "extruded fantasy product," this is the sort of
thing they're talking about. It doesn't mean that it's utterly without
redeeming value, but that it is mostly or entirely unoriginal and
inspired by the work of others (usually Tolkien); that it possesses
many stereotyped and cliched characters, occurrances, and themes; and
that it has a (subjective, of course) cranked-out feel to it.

I will credit Eddings for telling a lively story, which captivated me
when I was sixteen and less critical. However, the flaws in his
writing make him unreadable to me now.

1. The majority of the characters possess a truly stunning stupidity
and/or lack of emotional maturity. The farmboy Garion is a blockhead.
His girlfriend Ce'Nedra is a spoiled brat. The two five thousand year
old wizards who are looking after him, Belgarath and Polgara, behave
like a pair of bossy teenagers, and repeatedly conceal information
from him that he, and their own cause, would have been better off had
they revealed it. There are not one, but two, dunderheaded knights.
Even the gods are idiots who require a good talking-to. (What did they
THINK would happen to the people who were created without a god to
guide them?) Everyone ponders totally unmysterious prophecies, and
never figures them out. When a man described as "the man with two
lives" is killed, everyone howls melodramatically. Gee, think he'll be
resurrected?

This makes the only character who isn't a moron, the rat-faced little
man, Silk, steal the show. He drinks! He wisecracks! He gambles! He
tells Garion useful things! He's a spy! He's a prince! He's tragically
and secretly in love with his married aunt! He has another tragic
secret involving his mother! The rat-faced little man is by far the
most fun character in the entire canon, no doubt about it. Which
brings me to...

2. The terrible, repetitive writing style. Silk is described as "a
rat-faced little man" about once for every year Belgarath has been
alive. No can just say anything without an adjective attached: he said
slyly, she said sheepishly, they bellowed loudly. Most horribly,
Eddings is overly fond of weasel words such as "like," "sort of" and
"kind of." They are kind of scattered across every page, sort of like
confetti, and once you, like, notice this, you will never be able to
read Eddings again.

I'm not even going to get into the stunningly immature treatment of
sex: "Baby!" "Chair!" "Baby!" Those who have read will understand, and
shudder in appalled memory.

Rachel

Didn't read The Mallorean, but agree entirely about The Belgariad. A few things struck me with TB:

1) Apparently every place name mentioned had to be visited at least once. I'm not sure if this was Eddings' fault, since I've heard Lester del Rey wanted him to take the trilogy originally submitted and expand it. Expand a trilogy. Brrrrrrrrrrr....

2) Worse, Eddings' descriptive powers were sorely lacking so most of the places they visited were less like towns and cities than like Hollywood backlots substituting for towns and cities. As I recall, the very worst was a snake (cobra) worshipping town that seemed to come straight out of a 1940s Maria Montez flick.

3) I would call Eddings' prose style, 'vanilla,' except that vanilla actually has a flavor.


Randy M.
 
Worst books ...

Jasc said:
I found Norman's Gor series quite entertaining actually. I won't class it as anything superb, but it was certainly entertaining. The women slavery thing gets a bit much in the latter books, however.

Oddly, I mentioned Norman elsewhere today when a thread about "Books You Hated" came up. I wrote:

---
John Norman, the first two Gor novels, whatever the heck their titles are.

[...]The first one, actually, was all right. It set a premise that could have made an interesting fantasy world if the guy writing it didn't prove to be in love with the idea. Take that premise, give it to someone actually capable of evaluating it, twisting it to show what might be good, willing to show all that was bad, and you'd have a fascinating book/series. You might feel the need to sandpaper yourself a few times before showering after reading them, but they'd be fascinating.

Randy M.
 
The two authors that instantly jump into my mind are Carole Nelson Douglas and Lyndon Hardy. From the former I read Six of Swords & Exiles of the Rynth in the early eighties, since when she has gone on to have published many crime novels so she can obviously write - just not Fantasy unfortunately.
As for the latter I remember reading Master of the Five Magics & Secret of the Sixth Magic again in the early eighties, easily the best thing about them was the stunning Geoff Taylor cover art.
 
A tie between Darkness and Light (Dragonlance: Preludes) and Wizard's First Rule.
 
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Originally Posted by Yobmod


2. Tehanu -- Ursula K. Le Guin,

which i thought was good, and my favourite of the Earthsea books. In fact the Other Wind was much worse. Also you said to disregard YA books; Earthsea is YA....

Very interesting. Two posts with positive reviews of Tehanu. To me it was a huge disappointment -- plodding, banal and overtly feminist. A complete letdown after the great work done in the first three books. I actually thought the Other Wind was a great deal more satisfying and a return to her earlier writing.

Fwiw: I think Tehanu an incredibly beautiful and thoughtful book, Le Guin at her stripped lyrical best; the account, in particular, of the love between Ged and Tenar is very moving and true. Though maybe you have to be old and sad to see how beautiful it really is. (And I don't see how being feminist is a problem; but I would say that Tehanu is no more feminist than the earlier books are masculinist). The Other Wind was good, but not a patch on Tehanu.
 

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