Write One, Sub One

There are two stories that I've always loved on rejections. The first comes from Stephen King (who admittedly lived then in a very different era with way more publication opportunities for short fiction in magazines and newspapers.) When he was starting out, he got a large, long screw nail and hammered it into his bedroom wall. And when he got a rejection letter, he'd jam it on to the nail. His goal was to put as many letters on the nail as possible. In time, he had to switch to a railroad spike because the long nail didn't have enough room.

The other one was a writer who planned to wallpaper her bathroom in rejection letters. Apparently, she started to get some publications before having enough rejection letters to fill the bathroom, but as Carrie Vaughn's blog post points out, you can probably get enough if you submit enough to do some lovely art or home decor projects with them. Of course, a lot of these rejects are now emails, but you can print them out. This would allow you to pick a nice eco-friendly recycled paper in an attractive color to print them out on and use as the wallpaper.

And there is another option, which is to self-publish the stories or the longer, more novella-y ones and sell them cheaply online. There are some advantages to this, as long perhaps as you stick to the stories you did that you like the best. You can experiment, you can get direct audience market research about what you do that does and does not get a good response, and you don't have to worry about fitting a particular magazine's specialized audience. But I do think submitting to magazines and getting rejected is good practice for writing and life in general.

My suggestion is to remember the mantra: A rejection means not this story with this person on this day. And that's all it means. (Though if you do get any feedback that is useful to you, it doesn't hurt to improve things either.)

JR said:
yes, the editor DOES read everything and read that quickly.

Every editor and agency reads everything submitted. An editor who asks for submissions and then doesn't read them would be an editor who needs help from mental health professionals.
 
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My point was that this editor does all the reading whereas some mags have slush readers :)

I have a great idea for a short story. I should go and write it. Soon! And submit it!
 
I have a great idea for a short story. I should go and write it. Soon! And submit it!

Do it! I'm hunting around for something to focus on for the month of May. I have a short story I need to edit (my princess-dragon story that needs a complete re-write), but I feel like writing something new. Maybe the next forum contest will give me something to work with. If not, I'll sift through the anthology pile over at Static Movement.
 
I have sent my Dwarves story out to Drabblecast and Pod Castle, as I thought the story was a good fit for their formats, and they seemed to lean towards quirky content. (They felt differently.) I now have it out to Space Squid.

I use submission grinder and i like it, but I also tried a couple months of Duotrope. They are very similar but Duotrope has way more markets to submit to. It is worth getting a one month membership just to research markets for your genre of choice. Ralan didn't do it for me, it seemed like a cluttered mess to me.

Overall I am finding it hard to find markets once you filter them down for any given storys type, or if you are finicky about the quality of some of the smaller markets.

I like the idea of write one, sub one. (monthly for me) I tend to flip-flop between wanting to just focus on novels vs. also writing short stories. Short stories are providing me with a more immediate avenue for editing experience, workshop critiquing and beta reading. But more than just that, I honestly like having something out there for submission, and getting rejections. It makes me feel a little more like a writer, and a little less like a wannabe. It might be 2 or 3 years before I get to that point with a novel.
 
Short stories are providing me with a more immediate avenue for editing experience, workshop critiquing and beta reading. But more than just that, I honestly like having something out there for submission, and getting rejections. It makes me feel a little more like a writer, and a little less like a wannabe. It might be 2 or 3 years before I get to that point with a novel.

Oh god, this.

Didn't somebody here link Doug Smith's "Playing the Short Game" series of blog posts? I think he said every smart thing on the subject. You get quicker, more immediate experience. It's easy to try something, see if it works, and junk it is it doesn't. I've only just talked myself into junking my first novel, but it took me a year to come to the decisions because I spent so long writing it, I just couldn't bring myself to part with it. A bad short story? Happy to just move on to the next thing. Thus, writing practice is achieved. :/

Maybe after ten years of this my short stories will be good enough to sell, and I can turn my now-practiced attention to the novels...
 
Oh, and a quote for tmso:

From Rocky Balboa:
... But it ain't how hard you hit; it's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward. How much you can take, and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done.
 
Maybe after ten years of this my short stories will be good enough to sell, and I can turn my now-practiced attention to the novels

I've read three of your short stories now. It is not going to take you ten years.
 
I do agree to a certain extent, that writing short stories allows you to experiment, to refine your storytelling ability. And getting rejections, along with the feedback that may come from them, can be inspiring, proof that you're getting closer.

But, and this is really dependent on what you're wanting to gain from writing, I worry that the more you concentrate on short fiction, the more your long fiction may suffer. Yes, you'll get better at your craft, in general. But writing short stories doesn't help so much with getting the novel down. Plotting and pacing on a novel is a different thing than short stories. Characterization, world-building, possibly a different ballgame.

I found that as I worked feverishly on short stories, editing, making them as good as I could for submission, I was effectively ignoring my novels. And for me, I won't make a living selling short stories. I may not make it writing novels either, but there's no chance with short fiction.

It's really an individual thing, like most writing.
 
And for me, I won't make a living selling short stories. I may not make it writing novels either, but there's no chance with short fiction.

This is exactly my thinking too, which is why I don't write much short stuff.
 
...and here is the frustration with write one, sub one in the modern age...

I revisited the site that I have my story submitted to last night and did some poking around. They are completely stale. It looks like they really haven't done much in the past 2 years. There is one new story that has been posted during that time as far as I can tell. Oh well.
 
I revisited the site that I have my story submitted to last night and did some poking around. They are completely stale. It looks like they really haven't done much in the past 2 years. There is one new story that has been posted during that time as far as I can tell. Oh well.

Yikes. If that's the case, I'd definitely just shoot them a note that you'd like to withdraw your submission and move on. Good luck!

I got my rejection from ASIM. I nice form rejection. On to the next. :)
 
That's not a modern age thing. Magazines used to go out of business all the time in the past. The hope was always that you could get it out and get paid before a magazine went under or got sold. Luckily, the Internet lets you find out faster that they've folded.
 
No Yikes at all. As Kat said, happens all the time. Not a major concern. Just send an email retracting your submission and send it elsewhere.

As for me, I have a sub with a mag that appears to still be alive, but I'm not getting a response. That sub has been out 150 days. If I get no response to my query, I'll pull it back and send it elsewhere.

I also have a sub with ASIM. I'm still waiting. It was weird. I got an email stating that they didn't accept work that was published elsewhere. I was confused and assured them that the story hadn't been published elsewhere. I got my number, but it never appeared on their site. 20443 is in limbo somewhere, but hopefully still in the queue to be read and not literally in limbo.

I expect for form letter rejection soon :)
 
ASIM was the place that rejected me with a long note from the reader explaining that my piece was "badly written" and the "grammar was wrong" (see: workshop thread and subsequent story in the Story forum). They are not in my good books! ;)
 
ASIM was the place that rejected me with a long note from the reader explaining that my piece was "badly written" and the "grammar was wrong" (see: workshop thread and subsequent story in the Story forum). They are not in my good books! ;)

Ha! They said my writing was solid but that my story was two-dimensional. (shrugs) Go figure.

JR - my recent submission was number 20501. And I think they turned it around in about 20 days. So, you might want to query again.
 
JR - my recent submission was number 20501. And I think they turned it around in about 20 days. So, you might want to query again.

That's HILARIOUS. I was 20498 - we must have submitted on practically the same day. :D They turned me over in three days. The bums. ;)
 
Ah, sounds like some of these magazines have readers who don't know how to act professionally. See, this is why I have to keep explaining that book editors really aren't interested in your grammar. Because some fan voluntarily reading short story subs thinks the job is to act like an English teacher towards a writer the magazine isn't interested in.

*Is ASIM one of those mags where you get read by several people and they then offer feedback on every submission? I had great fun with one of those once, as I got back two (brief) reader reports that completely contradicted each other. Which happens.
 
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