Steph Swainston to quit writing to become a teacher

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Novelist Steph Swainston, the writer of the Castle series of New Weird fantasies, has announced she's leaving writing. She blames the pressures of delivering a novel a year and being expected to do a lot of her own marketing via the Internet. She also blames the 'poison' of some Internet feedback to her writing online. Apparently she is planning to become a chemistry teacher.

Sad news. I enjoyed the interesting-but-flawed Year of Our War. I need to get round to reading the rest of her books sometime.
 
Aaaw man I was enjoying those too. Thought they were a nice change from my usual reading. :mad:
 
Apparently she is planning to become a chemistry teacher.
Where she has to face the horrific behaviour of a class full of teenagers, and the pressure of getting as many to pass as possible. I don't mean to sound harsh, but it seems to me that she's getting out of the frying pan and into the fire.

It's a shame that one more writer isn't going to be publishing any works any time soon, but it begs the question as to why she feels pressured to release one book a year. I know it's fairly standard for the market, but surely there's some sort of remedy for it? One book every 18 months isn't too bad, is it?
 
it begs the question as to why she feels pressured to release one book a year. I know it's fairly standard for the market, but surely there's some sort of remedy for it? One book every 18 months isn't too bad, is it?

I'm guessing that she needs that much money per year, so she was bsically living book-to-book.

It's hard for me to believe she'll completely stop writing, but might instead just write when and as much as she likes.
 
Interesting. As someone who is a teacher, I can say it's not a job you go into lightly these days.

I met Steph in 2005 at the Glasgow WorldCon. She was lovely. On meeting her a couple of years later at a FantasyCon she was... well, odd, to put it mildly.

I blamed it on the medications she's been taking for her back since a car accident, but it was a bit of a shock, to say the least.

I suspect part of this is due to the fact that she'd spent nearly 20 years developing the ideas for the Fourlands. She showed notebooks and sketches and was genuinely keen and enthusiastic. Turning this into something where you spend time producing a book a year or so, it must be difficult.

But it'll be interesting to see her work in teaching. I wish her well, but can't say it'll be the job for her, myself.

Mark
 
According to the article that Wert linked, it appears that she admonishes her fans because she felt that they placed too much pressure on her, especially the very vocal fans. She also says that the "internet is poison to authors."

I believe, at least according to the article, that she was still under contract with her publisher when she decided to take a break. It is too bad she did not wait until she completed the terms of the contract she agreed to before taking a break.
 
That's quite worrying on both fronts, to be honest. Maybe she's falling ill? I'm not going to presume anything, but going by Hobbit's post and part of that article, her views are a little unsettling. I'm confused as to why she claims she has no problem with fandom, but then makes a rather scathing comment about fans. But school kids are just as bad, even at the A-Level age range, if not worse.

P.S. I don't think she's read any of King's work. Most of his characters are writers? Pah. The Dark Tower, Carrie, Under the Dome, Cell, The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon... There's plenty who aren't. Yeah, a good number are, but that's a bit of a blanket statement.
 
Quitting to be a teacher, huh?

I'm not familiar with the author, but a book a year is pretty standard as to what a publishing company wants to keep momentum in the sales and build....

Nothing abnormal there. (Pointing at Jim Butcher, here, but I figure Kenyon and that Anita Blake gal do the same. Hamilton?). Let alone the one who does the stuff that's titled like old westerns with a demon twist.

Then there are the multiple series folks.

Anyway.

Duma Key has a painter, The Shining a hotel caretaker, The Stand doesn't have any writers that I remember. In forty-ish short stories, the only writer I remember is in "The Typewriter of the Gods,"

Insomnia - no writer, Dreamcatcher - no writer. To me that's enough to say the characterization isn't inaccurate, it's false.

And as to the Internet being poison - authors need to develop a thicker skin, that's all. And if you can't take it, (A) don't allow comments on your blog / website and (B) don't read your reviews. Simple enough and something you could do years ago when you told your agent only to forward the positive fan mail and positive reviews.

As far as I'm concerned, I'll make one blanket statement -- all art is individual taste. One man's graceful semicolon is another man's strychnine.

Fantastically enough, there are a lot of writers who dream of quitting the day job, and here's one that's quitting to get a day job. It takes all kinds.

Personally, I never expect to get that far--being able to quit my day job, and frankly, I'd rather not quit my day job. I happen to enjoy it. But I also enjoy writing and the occasional sale is basically like getting a $5 lottery ticket that pays for itself, or slightly more. (I have this hypothetical bet with myself that I need to sell stories to fund buying the writing books I've already bought, but at this rate, I'll be ninety by the time I pay them off.)

Anyway.

I could probably churn out a book a year, but I doubt I'd have time to open my mail... no comments or promises on quality. But a lot of novelists work at this pace, so if you can't keep up, well, you've got competition. (Pointing at Heinlien, Asimov, and Philip K. Dick as examples) Other authors get away with taking a decade to produce the seventh book in a series (bitter, me? No!). But Come On, Orson!

On the topic, I figure if I had notebooks on notebooks of setting, it'd be easier to write a book a year (Philip K. Dick worked similarly to this, writing notes and notes and notes until he felt he had enough to write, then never referring to the notes --it kind of shows, but--). And if I managed to sell one, a sequel would be easier to write because, well, I'd learned a few things the first time through.

To say nothing of the fact that the one book I've written (unpublished, not seeking publication yet as not publishable quality) I would love to write another book in that world. It has a lot of things I'm passionate about cooked into it. As it stands, I keep making notes on new things to include, and the book is starting to resemble a Rube Goldberg version of a Calliope.

--Brian.
 
It sounds like she's going through a very rough time and with medical issues. Since she was doing so well, there are a lot of promotional issues, a lot of pressure, and of course, a great deal of criticism. Gollancz would let her take the time she needs to do a book, but that doesn't mean they didn't keep asking how she was doing. And the emphasis now by so many fans that you have to complete a series, books faster and faster or you are somehow awful -- that's probably not something every author can manage to deal with.

While being a high school chemistry teacher seems a rather stressful choice for me, it may just be what she needs right now. Every writer can try to set things up on their own terms, on what works for them. So this may work for her better. I hope things get better for her.
 
This is very sad news. I really hope she will keep writing (at her own pace) or return to it full-time at some point. I hope the best for her, but I also have my doubts about how happy she'll be with teaching, considering the general behaviour of students these days, and the fact that she is so bothered by comments on the internet.. I'm a university student and I think my class-mates are pretty rude to teachers - and they're supposed to be adults (constantly on Facebook during classes, making snide remarks, etc. I've even seen a few fall asleep during classes or put headphones on and start listening to music!)

And as to the Internet being poison - authors need to develop a thicker skin, that's all. And if you can't take it, (A) don't allow comments on your blog / website and (B) don't read your reviews. Simple enough and something you could do years ago when you told your agent only to forward the positive fan mail and positive reviews.

Agreed. I was thinking the same when George R.R. Martin started getting hassled about his writing speed. He should have tried to laugh it off or simply ignored it instead of letting it upset him. Steph's comment that a vocal reader can influence the outcome of a book is quite worrying. There's no reason for a succesful and published writer to take a comment from some random person on the internet - who might be a complete nobody - that much to heart.

I wonder about her comment that writers are expected to advertise their work on the internet and become "celebrities". Publishers don't actually ask them to do that, do they? I know China Mieville is less than enthusiastic about the social aspect of the internet and he seems to be getting away with it.
 
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According to the article that Wert linked, it appears that she admonishes her fans because she felt that they placed too much pressure on her, especially the very vocal fans. She also says that the "internet is poison to authors."

I believe, at least according to the article, that she was still under contract with her publisher when she decided to take a break. It is too bad she did not wait until she completed the terms of the contract she agreed to before taking a break.


OMG . . . I was just thinking the same thing today. I was thinking how the internet poisons authors' minds. When I self-published my last book in 2004, the abuse I received was so bad that it haunts me still. People I meet in the real world, on the other hand, like at book signings, are quite the opposite, exceedingly friendly and encouraging. I am not sure why this is; I think it has a lot to do with the bitterness of many struggling writers. As for myself, I get so depressed some days I do feel like quitting, but I don't think it's something I could ever do. Writing is my daemon. I can't part with it.

Nick Alimonos
 
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I'm not familiar with the author, but a book a year is pretty standard as to what a publishing company wants to keep momentum in the sales and build....

Nothing abnormal there. (Pointing at Jim Butcher, here, but I figure Kenyon and that Anita Blake gal do the same. Hamilton?). Let alone the one who does the stuff that's titled like old westerns with a demon twist.

Then there are the multiple series folks.

Anyway.

Duma Key has a painter, The Shining a hotel caretaker, The Stand doesn't have any writers that I remember. In forty-ish short stories, the only writer I remember is in "The Typewriter of the Gods,"

Insomnia - no writer, Dreamcatcher - no writer. To me that's enough to say the characterization isn't inaccurate, it's false.

And as to the Internet being poison - authors need to develop a thicker skin, that's all. And if you can't take it, (A) don't allow comments on your blog / website and (B) don't read your reviews. Simple enough and something you could do years ago when you told your agent only to forward the positive fan mail and positive reviews.

As far as I'm concerned, I'll make one blanket statement -- all art is individual taste. One man's graceful semicolon is another man's strychnine.

Fantastically enough, there are a lot of writers who dream of quitting the day job, and here's one that's quitting to get a day job. It takes all kinds.

Personally, I never expect to get that far--being able to quit my day job, and frankly, I'd rather not quit my day job. I happen to enjoy it. But I also enjoy writing and the occasional sale is basically like getting a $5 lottery ticket that pays for itself, or slightly more. (I have this hypothetical bet with myself that I need to sell stories to fund buying the writing books I've already bought, but at this rate, I'll be ninety by the time I pay them off.)

Anyway.

I could probably churn out a book a year, but I doubt I'd have time to open my mail... no comments or promises on quality. But a lot of novelists work at this pace, so if you can't keep up, well, you've got competition. (Pointing at Heinlien, Asimov, and Philip K. Dick as examples) Other authors get away with taking a decade to produce the seventh book in a series (bitter, me? No!). But Come On, Orson!

On the topic, I figure if I had notebooks on notebooks of setting, it'd be easier to write a book a year (Philip K. Dick worked similarly to this, writing notes and notes and notes until he felt he had enough to write, then never referring to the notes --it kind of shows, but--). And if I managed to sell one, a sequel would be easier to write because, well, I'd learned a few things the first time through.

To say nothing of the fact that the one book I've written (unpublished, not seeking publication yet as not publishable quality) I would love to write another book in that world. It has a lot of things I'm passionate about cooked into it. As it stands, I keep making notes on new things to include, and the book is starting to resemble a Rube Goldberg version of a Calliope.

--Brian.



Well, I agree that I've reached a point where I'd rather not receive negative mail. It usually isn't constructive. My true fans, who I've known for years, are more honest with their views.

As for writing a book year? I'd rather not rush it . . . but I could pull it off, simply because I have so many shelved works I could use after a little polishing. Plus, I absolutely despise my day job (restaurant manager): nothing is more stressful than that!
 
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One of the things that can happen is that the Internet creates a connection between the reader and the writer, but in the minds of many it also allows them to say/do things that they wouldn't dream of doing if they were talking in person.

I see many, many things that are typed across the Internet that just wouldn't be approached in real-life.

Or in Twitter/Facebook etc etc.

Might be one of the reasons why we're so keen on politeness and netiquette here at SFFWorld!

Mark
 
Duma Key has a painter, The Shining a hotel caretaker, The Stand doesn't have any writers that I remember. In forty-ish short stories, the only writer I remember is in "The Typewriter of the Gods,"

King certainly doesn't use _only_ writers as his main characters ... though to be fair the hotel caretaker in the Shining was actually taking the job so he could write his book over the winter (he ends up writing on that repeats 'all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy' a gazillion times). He also has writer main characters in Misery, Tommyknockers, Bag of Bones... But yes, she overstated it.
 
I've seen quite a mixed reaction to this news over the past few hours. There's obviously a lot of support for Steph, but I've seen some disagree with what she's doing. I won't name anyone, but an author wrote on Twitter that by breaking the contract, she's breaking away from her responsibility to the publisher and the staff (Such as editors). I think it's a fairly valid point. I do think she, as an author, will have some form of responsibility to her fans. At the end of the day, her books are products that are marketed and sold. If they're sold as a trilogy, but the author backs out after book two, then the fans are going to be annoyed. They thought they were going to get a trilogy - and were told they will - so some of the annoyance is justified. I don't agree with the extremes of behaviour that some exhibit, though.

The self-promotion point is a bit double-sided, too. Jon Sprunk, to use an example we're familiar with, promotes his books here by integrating with our members. He's often on Twitter and Goodreads, and he gets involved. The reason I eventually bought Shadow's Son is because he's a nice guy, and I'm glad I did. An author will have to self-promote, yes, but they should sow the seeds of discussion and talk rather than run around saying "Buy my book!". It needs to be an organic thing, not something you force upon others.

I'm honestly not sure what I should think about all of this, except that I hope she finds some sort of peace and happiness.
 
It is part of the author's job contractually to help promote their books, but no, publishers don't make an author do Twitter, etc. They do, though, encourage authors to do it and to be pro-active where they are willing. But publishers can't make authors do anything.

Nor is she failing her responsibility to the publisher, much less the editor, by cancelling a contract. Because she is unable to deliver the contracted work, she will be paying back the publisher any money advanced to her and the contract will be terminated, and while I'm sure her publisher would have liked to have had the book, they are not wailing and rending their cloths because these kinds of things do happen in publishing. Much more hostility is likely to come from fans who don't want the series to discontinue. But then, that's part of why she's stopping for now.

However, I do find it a bit melodramatic, which I put down to her frustration and personal situation. If you want to leave writing, logically you leave and let your publisher issue a PR statement saying you've taken a break, rather than do an interview with a journalist trashing the publisher who is going to sell your backlist still and garnering you lots of the Internet attention you say you don't want. That said, that's rather a minor sin, and I again hope it gets better for her.
 
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It's clear that the situation is complicated.

From my (limited!) experience publishers will ask, but will realise when there are issues and do their best to help and support the writer when needed.

I know quite a few cases where authors have found things difficult but through the support of the publishers have managed some sort of resolution.

The best one is, of course, Douglas Adams, who according to legend, at one point was locked in a bathroom with the agent on the other side of the door having the draft passed under the door.... even if it's not true, it's a great story!

Mark
 
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It is part of the author's job contractually to help promote their books, but no, publishers don't make an author do Twitter, etc. They do, though, encourage authors to do it and to be pro-active where they are willing. But publishers can't make authors do anything.

I don't recall anything about promotion in my contract ... maybe I just didn't read it very closely :) I do know that when I explained I never get more than a 5 hour break from caring for my disabled child (i.e when she's at school) and that this makes attending conventions, meeting journalists in London, and signing books in other cities etc difficult, they've been totally understanding and said 'no problem, don't do it'. In fact the only thing I've ever been asked is whether I had a webpage. I think my agent encouraged me to set one up. At no point though was I asked to tweet, go on facebook etc etc.

For me the only issue with the internet is that it's a time-sink and I have very little time. I love wasting time on it though.

I sympathise with Steph, being under pressure is a horrible thing and we all react differently to situations ... I think I'd react badly to being a chemistry teacher! I also think some people put themselves under pressure - they have high expectations of themselves, they feel their various responsibilities acutely... and clearly the thing to do in such a position is to make a change. Which she has done. Good luck to her.
 

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