Fantasy / Horror Reading in October 2015

How far is that into the Malazan series?

That's the second book, I just started the series. Both Gardens of the Moon (the first book) and Deadhouse Gates were a bit hard for me, but still enjoyable, and people say that the series gets better and better with each next installment so I'm going to continue. :)
 
That's the second book, I just started the series. Both Gardens of the Moon (the first book) and Deadhouse Gates were a bit hard for me, but still enjoyable, and people say that the series gets better and better with each next installment so I'm going to continue. :)

Deadhouse Gates was possibly my favourite , the Chain of Dogs is probably my favourite sequence of any fantasy series and the ending was........bitter-sweet. Memories of Ice is a fantastic book as well , I'm sure you will enjoy it.
 
Deadhouse Gates was possibly my favourite , the Chain of Dogs is probably my favourite sequence of any fantasy series and the ending was........bitter-sweet. Memories of Ice is a fantastic book as well , I'm sure you will enjoy it.

The Chain of Dogs was a great sequence, yes. I do hope I enjoy some of the next books even more tho. ;)
 
I'm getting ready to finish Assassin's Quest, which is the last book in Robin Hobb's Farseer trilogy. I must say I enjoy Hobb's world very much, though I do find her books--at least this trilogy, particularly--a slow read for me.

I'm currently debating with myself about what fantasy book to read next, as I'm already reading a sci-fi novel. I'm thinking I will either carry on with the fourth book of The Dresden Files (Summer Knight) or tackle some Brandon Sanderson (I've yet to read anything by him, though I own Warbreaker, Elantris, The Way of Kings, Words of Radiance, and The Rithmatist).
 
I'm thinking I will either carry on with the fourth book of The Dresden Files (Summer Knight) or tackle some Brandon Sanderson (I've yet to read anything by him, though I own Warbreaker, Elantris, The Way of Kings, Words of Radiance, and The Rithmatist).

Hmmmmm. I'd go with Summer Knight first, then Elantris. Elantris was a strange book, and parts of it I liked because I just couldn't BELIEVE how much stuff Sanderson was throwing in there. Here, have a couple of kitchen sinks! ;)
 
Finished The Aeronaut's Windlass by Jim Butcher. I went into this one expecting it to be amazing, and it was. It's not Dresden, but it's tons of fun in its own way. Butcher writes action so brilliantly and knows how to keep you on the edge of your seat. The beginning of the book was a little slower than I'm used to with Butcher, but it was ridiculously fun overall.
 
I've read Aeronaut's Windlass and Shadows of Self.

Pretty underwhelmed by both in the end, I'm planning to read Cornwell's new Saxon Chronicles story but tbh, I'm enjoying reading over my own book more than I thought and think I need some time off from my favourite authors after feeling let down by Butcher and Sanderson.
 
I've read Aeronaut's Windlass and Shadows of Self.

Pretty underwhelmed by both in the end,

Sorry to hear that, Jon. For what it's worth, three staff members at SFFWorld all read Aeronaut and loved it. Our joint review is up. I could be wrong, but the bits we liked I suspect you didn't?

And I must admit that I'm less of a fan of Brandon's work than many. I'm not a magic system kind of reader, I think. I appreciate what he does and think he's a great guy personally, but his writing usually leaves me less impressed for some reason.
 
I've heard that some people can't stand the cats in The Aeronaut's Windlass. For me, they made the story even more amazing. You can tell that Butcher understands cats, but if you're not a cat person, I can see that aspect of the book seeming stupid.

I liked it because it was something I haven't read before in fantasy. I know Tad Williams wrote Tailchaser's Song, but I haven't read it, so I don't know how he portrayed cats in it.
 
Read two more novellas from KJ Parker:

The Last Witness: "When you need a memory to be wiped, call me. Transferring unwanted memories to my own mind is the only form of magic I've ever mastered. But now, I'm holding so many memories I'm not always sure which ones are actually mine, any more. Some of them are sensitive; all of them are private. And there are those who are willing to kill to access the secrets I'm trying to bury..."

like most of KJ Parker's first person short fiction (Blue and Gold, Maps, Bird, Room etc), an unreliable, fairly unlikable to start with, though always amusing narrator who is a multiple malefactor and a story-line where obviously one of his multiple past misdeeds will eventually catch with him (but which one?); however while his murders, thefts and other (mis)deeds are many, the deeds of the powerful in his society with whom he entangles are worse anyway...
overall well done and with the final brutal twist(s) which are the trademark of the author delivering and making the final few pages of the novella seeming quite packed, though even in this subcategory I think I prefer more the Bird and the Maps novellas as the conceits there are more interesting imho, this one being more like Blue and Gold (while the more epic oriented stuff like two of swords is even better)

Two of Swords part 9: has Telamon (card Poverty) pov again as in 3 (and she appeared in 2 and 6) and then offers a similar mixture of banter, intrigue and breathless action, adding just a little more clarity to the overall story and ending at another good stopping point; overall another superb installment that makes me want the next one asap, while in the meantime i will be rereading again parts 1-9 to pick up more clues given what happened in this one
 
I've heard that some people can't stand the cats in The Aeronaut's Windlass. For me, they made the story even more amazing. You can tell that Butcher understands cats, but if you're not a cat person, I can see that aspect of the book seeming stupid.
Wouldn't say I'm particularly a 'cat person', but I do think that the character may be a dealbreaker. We all saw it as a strength not a weakness.

I know Tad Williams wrote Tailchaser's Song, but I haven't read it, so I don't know how he portrayed cats in it.
Yes, now you mention it - very similar. Liked that as well, though.
 
Sorry to hear that, Jon. For what it's worth, three staff members at SFFWorld all read Aeronaut and loved it. Our joint review is up. I could be wrong, but the bits we liked I suspect you didn't?

And I must admit that I'm less of a fan of Brandon's work than many. I'm not a magic system kind of reader, I think. I appreciate what he does and think he's a great guy personally, but his writing usually leaves me less impressed for some reason.

/rant mode on

So I wouldn't say that. Actually after reading your review I think we largely come down on the same side for most of the aspects of this book.

I loved the world building (which some people don't like as too vestigial), loved the windlass combat (although I have real trouble with the whole idea of one ship that can take on 5 enemies and almost win), loved Rowl and the cats, loved most of the aeronauts and eventually came to really like the character of Gwyn.

My issues were probably threefold:

1) I thought he tried to have each of his main characters take on too many roles. In a world like this I like deep characters but I ended up thinking that despite the rather convoluted back story for each of them (Grimm aside), they were completely shallow. I ended up quite liking Miss Lancaster's cameo as ships engineer but apart from that none of the characters really changed my starting opinions of them - a massive failure of character development IMO. This is serious for me because I think it's Butcher's greatest strength as a writer. We're talking about a guy who is probably the second greatest influence on my own writing.

2) It takes a swing at being Tales of The Ketty Jay and comes off dramatically worse. Holy Hell. A captain with a dark, damaged past after being betrayed by the navy, POV of the ships cat, plucky female engineer..... ex lover adversary! The only thing that he added in here was a less likeable supporting cast and a love interest so bland that I found myself wishing that Benedict and the other lass (who's name I can't remember) were not in the same room. Chris Wooding probably has a decent case to sue for IP theft. I'd go as far as to say that I'd never recommend this book over Tales of the Ketty Jay to anyone....ever.

3) He broke his own magical rules. I found the crystals and etherealists to be a decent magic system, not so heavy as to be offputting (I quite like Sanderson's scientific approaches but I know that isn't for everyone) but deep enough to not be too immersion breaking. Then comes along the enemy ethereralist and she seems to be almost immune to the drawbacks of the magicraft relative to the allied ones. I hate antagonists who are set above the protagonists "just because" in the name of making the climax of the book just a little more dramatic.

I won't go into Shadows of Self but my issues with that were more down to high expectations and a certain element of predictibility.
 
I don't see the Grimm/Frey comparisons really.

Frey wasn't in the Navy and his problems were down to him being a shallow selfish bastard initially and unless I missed a lot during the Ketty Jay books , Silo wasn't a plucky female and we already knew Butcher loves his cats (or anyone who has read any Dresden did), characterisation also took a couple of books with KJ. Silo was a nonentity in Retribution Falls , we didn't find out the Docs back story until the 3rd book (might have been near the end of 2 ?) , Trinicia was just the spurned lover went crazy until later in the series etc. I guess I'm just saying it's unfair to compare 4 books to one.

And if Wooding has a case to sue (lol) then someone should let Joss Whedon know , because TotKJ is essentially just Firefly. I agree that AW comes off poorly in a straight comparison with KJ , but the later is a complete series and to be honest most books regardless of sub-genre come off poorly against Ketty Jay , its an amazing series.

I'll give Cinder Spires more books, simply because I think AW was enjoyable enough to read more and because Butcher traditionally gets a lot stronger as his series mature. Dresden was good (like 3* - 3.5*) good until he got into his stride a couple of books in , especially with characterisation.
 
I'm on book 3 of Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn. Like the Farseer trilogy by Robin Hobb (finished last week), there are some glaringly stupid bits, which i'm sure are there just to drag the story out a bit. But overall i'm enjoying it, as I did, Farseer. I'm finding bits in both series where you are left almost shouting at the pages, "why did you do that??" or "just sodding tell them". If they were the old choose your own adventure books you could have defeated the bad guy in one book. Admittedly I posted this earlier this morning, not realising I was in the March thread:oops:
 
I've heard that some people can't stand the cats in The Aeronaut's Windlass. For me, they made the story even more amazing. You can tell that Butcher understands cats, but if you're not a cat person, I can see that aspect of the book seeming stupid.

I liked it because it was something I haven't read before in fantasy. I know Tad Williams wrote Tailchaser's Song, but I haven't read it, so I don't know how he portrayed cats in it.
You might like the Catwings children's series by Ursula K. Le Guin! I just love the whole idea.
 
Diane Duane's book sounds like fun! There's Mogget in the Abhorsen trilogy, and a talking cat in Tanya Huff's Keeper's Chronicles too. I think it was FicusFan who told me about the Chanur series by C.J. Cherryh, although it's SF, not fantasy. I think that's about all the cat books I know of, but need to read Aeronaut's Windlass soon!
 

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