Anita Blake

Originally posted by FicusFan


It also violates LKH's premise of a strong woman able to take care of herself and be responsible for her actions.


OH yeah .. exactly. And as you stated making Anita act out of character but blaming it on the aurdeur is total cop out. But hey least Jason got some loving. I've been pulling for him for ages. I really wanted him to take RAZ's place in the tri. I adore Asher .. but I don't trust him. Trust him even less after the CS. But I've hashed that out enough on the fanforum thread so I don't feel like rehashing it all here. JC I still adore. Can't imagine anyone not falling for him. ;)

Course we're going to have to totally disagree on the Edward thing. I can't not see them together .. even if it never happens. They are like the same soul just at different points on the journey. I think it may well be him that helps her get a handle on this aurdeur. Cause if he acts in character wont trust it AT ALL. And will remind her that if she was thinking like herself .. she wouldn't either. I'm hoping his appearance in the next book gets things back on track. It was his character that hooked me on the series .. and his character keeps me coming back. [It's that whole bad boy thing and how Anita can be 'the one' that he breaks his own rules for. So you can guess that I dislike Donna quite a lot.]

LKH has repeatedly said there isn't enough alcohol in the world for her or AB to get involved with Edward.

But then again .. I think the ladies protest a bit too much. ;)
 
Maybe Lauren K Hamilton rushed to finish her first book because of the release of Buffy the vampire slayer the movie. The movie was released in 1993 or 1994 (My memory is bad).
 
Oh wow! I can't believe I never lookd for Anita Blake threads around here, what was I thinking??

I discovered her books this summer, started with Narcissus in Chains, a strange one to read first, but it certainly caught my attention. I have an interest in the psychology of BDSM relationships, and that book came along at just the perfect time.

I went in search iof the rest, and have read my way through all of them, a couple of them twice.
It seems to me people either love or hate her books, not much grey area.

I am a little confused, maybe even disappointed, by the strange turn Anita has taken in the last couple of books. She seems to have come from an almost virginal stance to just generally doing everyone who needs saving. Still, weirdo that I am, I still do enjoy the erotic content of her books, can't deny it.

I read the two Merry Gentry novels and enjoyed them as well.
 
I agree people either love the books or hate them (or love to hate them) :D

My first book was Bloody Bones (#5), can't imagine what I would have made of the story if I had started with NIC. I have read them multiple times also. Mostly 1 (GP) - 7 (BO). The later books I have read only once or twice. I hope AB does change back to her old ways.

LKH is writing the next book now. She has said it will have Edward, and I think Olaf in it. I think that means is will be more like the police procedurals, than the relationship/sex books. She also said AB is going to get emotionally hurt I think.
 
Anita Blake series - I dont love it and I dont hate it.
I guess it's a "buy the book used and then trade it
in for the next one" attitude on the series.

I'm lucky enough to live close to a HUGH Used Book store.

-H
 
Spoiler for Incubus Dreams

I have some things to say about the recent story in the new book Cravings which excerpts several chapters of LKH's new AB book out this fall: Incubus Dreams. Those who don't want any spoilers should skip this post.

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Ok. The setting is Tammy and Larry's wedding, but without any input from either person. They are just dressed up dolls for AB to comment on. The tone of the story is smug, controlled, and very much emotionally shut down. AB is completely in control, and though she does think about some issues there is no possibility she will take any emotional chances.

I am reminded of the first wedding story back in Book 2 I think, were she is being fitted for a bridesmaid dress for Catherine's wedding. It is funny, and AB is vulnerable - because she knows she is out of her depth, but she cares enough about Catherine to try to fit in and not make a hash of her wedding. In this story she doesn't care about her impact on the wedding, though she supposedly cares about Larry. LKH tries for humor but there is no vulnerablility or vitality left in AB. AB has become the most important person in the room, and she knows it, and is uncarring about using that power. Why would you care about such a person ?

Yet again the small-fry, the minor characters have become the main focus. I am reminded of the saying a big fish in a small pond. AB is spending all her time with those who are lesser, smaller, weaker than she is. She has very little interaction with equals: JC, Richard, Dolph, her human friends or co-workers, the cops. LKH seems to be unable to write AB unless she dominates the social and power situation. Worse in this story LKH seems to be getting AB and her minions to convince her to sexually use Nathaniel - for his own good of course, even though she still has no romantic love for him, he is gone on her and can't say no. Isn't this the same territory that sexual preditors use to justify their behavior ?

Why does AB only think of the problems with her people: Damien and Nathaniel, and not the same issues with Jason and JC ? If hers are driven to touch, share and have sex with her, why can't she grant JC and Jason the same feelings. She cops out by saying JC allows Jason to have outside lovers, but she refuses to allow JC to do the same, or meet Jason's needs. She also lets her people have outside lovers, and its not enough for them, but it is somehow ok for JC and Jason ?

Finally why does AB end up with marks on Nathaniel and Damien, and then go to the 4th mark ? There is already a tri, why introduce a second one. Why do the 4th mark with them and not with JC and RZ. Are they just going to be pushed into the background ?
 
"Blood on MY Lips" (in Cravings) drove me absolutely crazy.......there are some things Anita needs to come to terms with, and fast.
I agree with your saying she has become "the most important person in the room".....her arrogance, her toying with the people around her while she "agonizes" over her relational decisions, is beginning to really get on my nerves.
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She should treat Nathaniel like a man instead of a child. Either sleep with him, which is what he needs from her to feel worth anything, or do him the courtesy of getting another pomme de sang.

She needs to quit lying to herself about still having any notions about sex being about authentic relationship. For her, it has become just another tool in her preternatural bag of tricks. She uses it as another kind of power.
 
I've read the first six books. I have noticed her character is starting to change, especially in the sixth book. I have an omnibus of books seven and eight to read yet. I'm not sure how far I want to continue with the series, especially if they get too raunchy. :p
 
I recently read books seven and eight. I thought they were good, but I have to say I prefer the earlier ones. I liked the storylines better when she is solving supernatural crimes and working as a zombie raiser. The stuff with the vampires and werewolves is ok, but it gets a bit boring with her relationship dilemmas.
 
AJ_ said:
I recently read books seven and eight. I thought they were good, but I have to say I prefer the earlier ones. I liked the storylines better when she is solving supernatural crimes and working as a zombie raiser. The stuff with the vampires and werewolves is ok, but it gets a bit boring with her relationship dilemmas.
I so have to agree with this. I really loved the first six or seven books and then I have been so dissapointed with the rest. Tried the read the latest "Dance Macbre" and just couldn't, had to put it down. Hamilton has lost it in my opinion. By no means am I a prude, and the sex really doesn't bother me. What really gets me is the fact there really isn't much of a story line anymore. And what there is of it doesn't seem to advance at all. I guess that is why I liked the first few so much. She had a mystery or something to figure out. There was more action in them and she was more of a badass. Now all she cares about is who she is going to have sex with next and choosing between all the men in her life. And I do agree about the aduer being a copout. As some of my friends and I were talking Hamilton herself either has one hell of a sex life, or none at all. I know how she feels about these people, (like they are real people to her), but unless she really wants to start losing fans she really needs to change a few things. I just keep hoping that we will be the Anita back that I really loved reading. But after this last book I have a feeling that is just not going to happen.
 
yes, same here... at this point im of a mind to just completely stop reading it... there were a couple of good passages in between all the sexe usually in the later volumes but danse macabre was really boring and nothing seemed to happen from beginning to end... what i dont understand is why she decided to go that way all of a sudden? is she sex crazed or something? develop nymphomania overnight or something? I mean, the earlier volumes were OBVIOUSLY much better and im pretty sure all her fans will agree... The only thing is that if she decides to continue to write such stupid things it must be because it sells better than her earlier volumes so what im wondering about is who the hell likes that stuff?????
 
I used to be the wold's biggest Anita fan. Everytime I went into a bookshop I'd move her books into prime position and I'd make all my friends buy them. But LKH has really annoyed me recently.

"I don't date vampires. I kill them"

Said Anita in one of the early books...

Well really, when was the last time you killed a vamp? Mind you she doesn't date vampires, just sleeps with them.

I will still buy the books as long as she keeps writing them but, meh, they're not what they once were.

Quick Damien's dying is some kind of code to have sex. It happens at least once a book now.
 
Hamilton takes critcism about her work about as well as Anne Rice.

What is it with these vampire authors, anyway?


I know LKH broke up with her first hubby (who I believe was her living idea of Richard) who used to edit all her books and his brother was her Police advisor so I think this is why Anita doesn't work with the police anymore. Her new hubby (Micha) is now her editor....
 
I've only read the first three of her books, but I can't help comment....

Perhaps the reason she took the negative comments so personally is because she is essentially writing her life in these stories? Most writers do inject their lives into their books, but the little bit you just is pretty insightful to an outside observer. Didn't she recently release a book titled Micah?
 
I've only read the first three of her books, but I can't help comment....

Perhaps the reason she took the negative comments so personally is because she is essentially writing her life in these stories? Most writers do inject their lives into their books, but the little bit you just is pretty insightful to an outside observer. Didn't she recently release a book titled Micah?


Yeah and it wasn't too bad. But the rest of her proper books come across as more porn than hard hitting vampire action.

It would also seem she has killed/married off Edward and I get the impression it was because he'd started out outshine Anita and become more popular with the fans.
 
In defense of LKH:

Yes LKH injects a lot of her life into AB, it is probably what makes AB such a good character. AB lost her mother at 7 or so, and LKH at 3 or so. LKh also had no father and was raised by her grandmother, 4 foot something. Her 6 foot grandfather was a perfect person in public, and then in private beat the stuffing out of her grandmother. LKH has said it fueled her interest in what she calls 'beautiful evil'. I think she and her grandmother escaped at one point. In any event LKH has not had an easy life, and had to fight for everything, so she is used to standing up for herself, and is not willing to let others push her around or tell her what she can and can't do. I think she has a similar temperament to AB.

Because of that she has a knee-jerk reaction to criticism. One of them is to to do what people tell her not to do, or that she can't. The complaints about the sex started with her editors, and she ignored them and forged ahead. Then the fans. In the meantime as she says in her blog, she still has the sales. She probably has never evaluated what people are saying, or why, she just sees a red flag.

She also seems a bit prickly in person. I have seen her get into 'fights' on con panels with authors she just meets, because she, like AB is a bit tone deaf in terms of proper social etiquette. She also doesn't fit into the box of being a 'good girl' in terms of playing by the rules in a male dominated society.

That said, her blog shows her really trying not to understand those who are unhappy. I think they are more than a small minority, and some still read the books and buy them. What she doesn't understand or try to, is that she hasn't failed as a writer. That people are passionate about her world and her characters, and will stand in line for 2 hours to tell her that she has screwed them up. People also keep reading because some of the earlier and more well developed characters are now just as, or more loved, than AB.


I have to disagree Micah, the book and the character are both just awful.

Other points, her ex-husband didn't edit the books, I don't think he even read them. Supposedly he objected to horror, and only ever read the first one. LKH notes it in the dedication of the book. Her current husband was running her fan club, and I suspect he may have been involved with the books, even before they were married. She did belong to a writer's group and would have them read and comment on the books if time permitted.

I also think she developed her contacts at the St. Louis Police Department through, a woman who was from STL and on the LKH list. She worked there at the front desk and was able to help her. Eventually the woman left the police department, and now works as LKH's personal assistant, and does her fan mail, fan club, and newsletters. So her police connections may not still be viable, especially with the addition of so much silly, and badly written, sex.

And after all that, evil negative reader that I am, I picked up a couple of the new comics that they are doing of Guilty Pleasures. I have issues #1 and #3. Not a big comics fan after childhood. But on one of the lists someone mentioned that they might actually add more to the story, so I want to see if thats true.
 
Didn't she recently release a book titled Micah?

Just in case people didn't know, and to avoid a little confusion: Micah has not been published in the UK, whereas Incubus Dreams and Danse Macabre have. So in the UK there are 13 Anita B books, and in the US 14.


LATER EDIT: Actually, having done a bit of research, I understand that Micah and Strange Candy (short stories) are to be released in the UK late 2007, possibly as one book. However it looks as if they will be 'from the writer of Anita Blake' rather than part of the Anita Blake series.

Hobbit
 
How did I know FicusFan would show up here? ;)

Seriously though, that background is interesting.
 

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