January 2010 Flash Fic Voting Thread A

Select 1 to 3 stories max between this and other January Flash Fic thread

  • Rapunzel, Rapunzel, Let Down Your Spade By Victoria A. Rogers (NickeeCoco)

    Votes: 6 50.0%
  • Erebus by Steve Jones (MrBF1V3)

    Votes: 1 8.3%
  • Morningstar v. Jehovah by Richard Dickson (DailyRich)

    Votes: 4 33.3%
  • Eye for an Eye by Venustar

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Choosing Direction at the Dead End by PeterWilliam

    Votes: 4 33.3%
  • Trey's Choice by Max S (RedRightHand)

    Votes: 2 16.7%
  • Joe 2.0 by Rich Matrunick (Sterling13)

    Votes: 2 16.7%

  • Total voters
    12
  • Poll closed .
Greetings all, and thanks for the great stories and the nice comments.

Here are my crits for every story. Why should you have to make extra clicks to go to more pages? I'm saving the world's electricity, one thread at a time.

I wrote these right at the start, but have sat on them for more than a week because I was worried some might consider them a little harsh. But then I figured, you're all big boys and girls, you can take it or you wouldn't be putting your stuff out there.

Thread A

Rapunzel, Rapunzel, Let Down Your Spade
By Victoria A. Rogers/NickeeCoco


I'm going to have to fly in the face of public opinion on this one, I'm afraid.

“A wooden spoon tapped angrily” ...tsk tsk Ms Rogers, spoons don’t get angry. ‘Angrily’ is repeated only a few sentences later. There is heavy adverb usage throughout – try a computer search for ‘ly’ in everything you do and then doing your best to remove the results where applicable. Merrily, gleefully, unceremoniously...purge these descriptors.

Henry glanced up from the floor for a brief second before he reverted his eyes back towards his shoes. "Sorry, mother."
You know this sentence should not have survived the edit. ‘Reverted his eyes back towards’ is beyond clunky.

Mariot glowered and shook her head. "Maybelle Clortinwink. That witch is the most queer person I ever have seen. She is to be the ruin of the county, mark my words. It was a sad day she came to live in Mistress Hedgerow's old house." After another snarl and a few more head shakes, Mariot suddenly glanced at her husband in one of the most serious of ways imaginable.
As You Know Bob telling, coupled with a very cumbersome description. How do you glance at someone in ‘one of the most serious ways imaginable’? You can do better than that.

Overall, there’s far too high a tell vs show ratio. Don’t tell us the witch is impatient – all witches are, we know that – show us her black fingernails tapping the grain of the door. Don’t use twenty-one words to tell us a man is looking ahead and behind – show us what he’s seeing.

Despite the technical failings, this is a story with immense charm. These are Hobbits, right? ;)

Erebus
by Steve Jones


The opening paragraph is unfortunately the weakest, forcing too much into too few sentences. After that, it’s a tight ride through a compelling story. I’d agree with NickeeCoco’s point that the Blacksmith is way too blasé about the stranger’s confessions and we don’t have any reason to care for him. There’s no reason to sympathise with Remo either, as he’s a nasty piece of work.

Right up to the end I was convinced this was going to be a Hulk-style twist, with the murderous dog turning out to be Remo’s alter-ego. It still could be, if the ‘behind’ of the blacksmith could somehow include the stranger, but I don’t think this is your intent, which is a shame as that would have made this a much deeper and more resonant story.

Morningstar v. Jehovah
by Richard Dickson


It’s very well done, with just the right tone for the material. But there’s already a huge body of work on print and screen depicting scenes just like this, and there wasn’t enough new here to grab me.

The reasoning behind Peter’s dismissal of the case is also clearly faulty – Stan could just have easily countered that God had pre-determined what happened, just like everything else. But then I’m a hard-core determinist, so I was fated say that...

Eye For An Eye
By Venustar


Work on those opening sentences.
“He looked behind, at the nondescript, glass door from which he had exited and shook his head.”
We don’t know who ‘He’ is at this stage, or what it is he’s looking behind. ‘Nondescript, glass door’ is too vague – if the door is so uninteresting and irrelevant to the story, why are you mentioning it? ‘From which he had exited’ almost broke my clunk-o-meter.

Past this hump, it’s much tighter and moves on nicely. My only issue is that there is not enough to the story – the interesting bits are in the flashback. There’s too little to Old Joe/Zero Ops for it to have any bearing, except as a device to shoehorn it into the theme (and it should not be ‘the’ Zero ops, unless you add a qualifier like ‘team’).

Choosing Direction at the Dead End
by PeterWilliam


I applaud the sentiment and the neat ending. There’s a lot of room for tightening up your writing and murdering your darlings.

“Will you choose correctly?” the official asked; close enough to me to suffuse me with his breath.”
As DailyRich pointed out, this can easily be shortened to lose the double ‘me’. ‘Suffuse’ in this context comes across as a bit of purple prose. Is this a phrase your character would use in general conversation? Doesn’t sound like it from her dialogue. A semi-colon in your opening sentence is brave to the point of foolhardiness.

“How did it come to this?” I rhetorically remonstrated with myself. The vicious bite of irony, envenomed within the thought, struck a moment later. I found myself here because, until now, I had refused to choose.
This is really purple stuff. Pretty words that convey very little meaning.

And then we get the actual story, which is all flashback. Flashbacks are universally frowned upon in crit groups and how-to-write books, for the simple reason they disrupt the flow of the story and take us away from the action. Your story has a great action moment, where the protagonist seizes her opportunity to avenge the death of her parents and simultaneously inspires her people to join the revolt. But you’ve reduced this contest-winning scene to a bookend for some fairly pedestrian back-story.

Trey's Choice
by Max S


Free pass this time for the formatting, as it’s your first submission. Next time, you get marked down!

Nice story, pretty well done (I’ll ignore the missing apostrophes). The ambiguity between the religion and the physical world was interesting – one could interpret the ‘firstflight of seraphs’ as a natural feature integrated into the religion, a more advanced neighbour or as actual angels, all of which could work. Despite the threadbare descriptions (we have no clue what anything looks like) you’ve created a very vivid atmosphere.

The only thing stopping me from really enthusing over this entry is the credibility of Trey’s choice. From what we are given, there is not enough to convince me that a teenage boy would so publically go against his community and a lifetime’s indoctrination.

Joe 2.0
by Rich Matrunick


A lovely story, keenly written. Not been playing Fallout, have you? Well done for coming up with the first story I’ve read that has an optimistic outlook on mutation. I can’t help but feel cheated out of the real story, though. It’s all setup with no payoff.

Thread B

The Trials of El Gordo
By Daddy Darth


Very convincing tour through the mind of a troubled man. Reminiscent of Scanners, in a good way. I really like the way the story is constructed to allow for the powers to be real or part of his delusion.

Good work keeping the POV consistent. But in staying so close to the protagonist without going for first-person, you’ve made for some rather heavy reading. Many sentences and paragraphs are made almost entirely of ‘he did this, then he did this’ with no variation to spice it up.

Colony
By Sean Regan


I like the style, but not the content. The scene is well drawn, the dialogue crisp. But it’s an anonymous couple having an uneventful conversation, which doesn’t really stand on its own as flash fiction.

Balthazar’s Legacy
By Jordan Lanni


Like HE noted, a strong feel of golden-age sci-fi here, with all the boundless enthusiasm for space travel felt by a generation yet to experience the crushing difficulties and setbacks presented by reality. It could be a short from a young Bradbury or Heinlein.

Some editorial nips and tucks I suggest:

Or had their places been switched, which was a distinct possibility, he would be dead right now and yet he was allowed the right to live on in Jim’s stead?
I simply can’t parse this sentence given the context of the paragraph. Cut or re-phrase.

He mused at the idea of an alternate dimension wherein that happened, but the ever-changing science of cosmology, answering questions with questions gave him a headache.
PeterWilliam singled this one out but I would say you both missed the real problem: ‘answering questions with questions’ should have been cut from an already overlong sentence. While that would make it intelligible, this kind of self-indulgent musing should be snipped anyway.

I’d also say, as Daddy Darth and txhusker pointed out before me, it was a mistake to put everything in flashback. The exciting events all happen offstage.

These are minor nitpicks. Welcome aboard, and keep writing. There’s lots of promise here.

Level 3
By Carin Marais


It’s good, fast paced, atmospheric. There’s a little problem with the internal logic of the story – these caves, or whatever this refuge is, are so vast and well stocked they can take a large section of society from richest to poorest, yet they are also magical and prone to disappearing at a moment’s notice? And how much protection against a rogue king would they prove if everyone knows about them?

The Prisoner
(The Continuing Misadventures of Kalgon WonderNot)
by Todd Banker


These keep getting better. Unfortunately I couldn’t shake from my mind the scene from X-Men where Magneto escapes from prison, and numerous other super-powered breakout scenarios I’ve enjoyed in the past. But since the series owes its genesis to challenging the clichés of the genre, it’s only fitting you should embrace them and make them your own.

The business at the end could have been clearer – I had to re-read to see if you intended for Bart’s body to be completely empty and Kalgon to be a prisoner inside his own body, or if you meant for them to have completely swapped bodies (it’s only clear when Kalgon shouts out, from Bart’s body – your use of the descriptor ‘Bart/Kalgon’ could be eliminated and replaced with something like ‘Bart, now controlling Kalgon’s body’).

Nice job! I’m waiting for the next instalment.

So this guy walks into a bar...
By Pete Warner


Written to your usual extremely high technical standard and containing your trademark sneaky use of borderline literature-grade asides, I’m still left a little cold by this one. There just isn’t enough between the two branches to justify them both being written out in full, and the Donnie Darko-style ghost interaction needed more to it to really satisfy.

Yin/Yang
by Dan Bieger


I like this one more with each reading. There’s an honesty to it that comes through in the dialogue. That said, there’s not much to chew on here – if the decision had been the opening and the birth the conclusion, we could have had a much more exciting entry (I get enough strained conversations with the wife at home).

Voting was extremely difficult for me this month. I really liked Trey's story, and The Prisoner, so they get it this time, and the only reason I am not using the third vote is because it would be unfair to choose a third from all the others I liked, which was all of them (despite what you may think from reading the above).
 
Thread A

Rapunzel, Rapunzel, Let Down Your Spade
By Victoria A. Rogers/NickeeCoco


I'm going to have to fly in the face of public opinion on this one, I'm afraid.

“A wooden spoon tapped angrily” ...tsk tsk Ms Rogers, spoons don’t get angry. ‘Angrily’ is repeated only a few sentences later. There is heavy adverb usage throughout – try a computer search for ‘ly’ in everything you do and then doing your best to remove the results where applicable. Merrily, gleefully, unceremoniously...purge these descriptors.

You know this sentence should not have survived the edit. ‘Reverted his eyes back towards’ is beyond clunky.

As You Know Bob telling, coupled with a very cumbersome description. How do you glance at someone in ‘one of the most serious ways imaginable’? You can do better than that.

Overall, there’s far too high a tell vs show ratio. Don’t tell us the witch is impatient – all witches are, we know that – show us her black fingernails tapping the grain of the door. Don’t use twenty-one words to tell us a man is looking ahead and behind – show us what he’s seeing.

Despite the technical failings, this is a story with immense charm. These are Hobbits, right? ;)

I understand where you're coming from, and usually I would agree, but I'm actually not going to listen to much of what you're saying about this piece. The reason being I was going after a very specific style of narration with this story. An older style. A style that embraces the adverb. If you go and pick up a book of fairy tales, you'll know what I mean. Fairy tales don't show, they tell.
 
Rapunzel, Rapunzel, Let Down Your Spade
By Victoria A. Rogers (NickeeCoco)

Nicely structured with a consistent style. I think some of the verbage can be cleaned up a little to make them less passive and move a little smoother, but a good read.

The black humor is done well. Or well done.


Erebus by Steve Jones (MrBF1V3)

I liked it alot as an Aesop's cautionary piece. I don't think it requires more explanation or variation as such. Surely you could expand and add and explain 'til the cows come home, but for me the joy in the piece is it's simplicity; leaving a lot of follow up self examination as to the whys and wherefores and what-would-I-do-in-those-shoes to the reader. Which is what a fable should do.

Nice piece. I only voted twice this month, but this was my 3rd choice.

Morningstar v. Jehovah by Richard Dickson (DailyRich)

"six denizens of Hell who weren't the least bit surprised "

That was an enjoyable story. Consistent in tone and rhythm, and didn't foreshadow the climax. Thnx.

Eye for an Eye by Venustar
As far as plot points, I don't think have anything different to add than what's been said. A few odd compound sentences I think can be broken or cleaned up - for instance this was a little confusing to me :
He held his breath down the hallway, and while Joe fumbled with the lock, and when they were finally inside, he let it out with a loud whoosh.

Nevertheless, you did a lot with the little space you had and had a complete arc and tale. Good effort.


Choosing Direction at the Dead End by PeterWilliam
My only nitpick of this well written and nicely arched piece was as I reading the transition from reverie to present at the end, I got lost and didn't catch on until too late that we were back to the beginning. It took a re-read to catch the connection.
Otherwise, a well thought out story and clear world. It made me think of a brutal world of Ember.


Trey's Choice by Max S (RedRightHand)
Technically - I echo the lack of need for double uppercasing in a proper name. There are some sentence structure and punctuation that could be cleaned up - especially in the midst of the conversations.

Story line - I like the story and overall arc, but I did not understand why Trey felt the necessity to deny his faith. I thought it was for the voice or what the voice stood for, but that didn't pan out, either. Not in every story do you need a reason for the protagonist to choose his fate, but for me, your story screamed for it. For him to deny his family and community and faith at such a young age would mean he had deep seeded confidence/committment to something else.

The ending :eek: ! I was certainly surprised and can understand the need of that in such a community, so it did not detract from my enjoyment of the overall piece.


Joe 2.0 by Rich Matrunick (Sterling13)
Got one of my votes.

A clever endeavor. I love the "Darwin bump".
 
Hi all, just a few notes on some of the entries in this part of the poll... as well as a few ramblings, but what can you expect late at night...

Here goes:


Erebus
Aijaijaijaijai…. Yet another brilliant entry. The almost melodramatic story telling of Remo fitted in perfectly with the true goriness of Erebus… Definitely also a warning not to talk to lonely strangers…

Morningstar vs. Jehovah
Wondered if anyone would be tackling the question of free will… And who better to cast as the main characters? Loved it!
Eye for an eye
I felt it was very good, but could have been a bit tighter. Definitely making it difficult to choose who to vote for!


Trey’s choice
Why did everybody have to write such good entries this month? I loved it, though I did have to backtrack a bit to get a hang of all the new terms and the new world. I wonder if you have read Mafikeng Road by Herman Charles Bosman? It made me grab my book of Bosman-stories again and read it. Unlike Floris, you ended it perfectly. And yes, I still cry when I read The Rooinek. If you haven’t read it, you don’t know what you’re missing…
Choosing direction at the dead end
Another worthy vote-contender! Though I also felt it could be a bit tighter.


Joe 2.0
Loved the irony of Joe “returning” to the water. I also thought the tongue-in-cheek use of Darwin was very well done. It does sound like the kind of slang that will start between “normal” people that doesn’t use scientific jargon. I would have liked to know more about the Fallout Plains, though…

For other ramblings, please see the other polls...

Marsh :D
 
Again, thanks for comments, they are appreciated. It seems this time I have a some people like it, some people don't kind of story. I think must have done something right when I get called out because my last story was better. I don't mind having set the bar pretty high. I'll try harder next time.

(Aside) ... and due to the nature of the thread, we also had the opportunity to actually see some of the people involved. I actually expected more of you to be younger than you are. Um ... not that I think anyone is old ... wait ... I didn't say anyone is immature ... Argh ... forget I said anything.

Nice piece. I only voted twice this month, but this was my 3rd choice.

Sigh, always the bridesmaid ...

Using the comments I have edited a bit, explaining the blacksmith's attitude; he'd heard it all before, it was a town which had hosted more than it's share of fugitives, and taking away the apology of Remo at the end, instead he insists to the end that it isn't his fault.

I would have loved the second part of this contest if we'd had it. Remo's alternate choice had some dire consequences.

So, yous have a good day; remember to vote early and vote often.

B5
 
The second part would have been interesting for me, since it's where my story originally went. It was adapted from a screenplay idea I've had for a while where Lucifer actually wins the lawsuit and God lets him back into Heaven, giving him free reign of the place to show him how completely unsuited he is for the job. So Lucifer has all kinds of wacky mishaps (inadvertantly starting the Apocalypse among them) before gratefully accepting his old job back.
 
Rapunzel, Rapunzel, Let Down Your Spade By Victoria A. Rogers (NickeeCoco)
I wondered where you were going with the Rapunzel reference. This was a great little tale, a kind of twist on its namesake. I’m not sure if tomorrow should be referred to as “this day past” but I’m not sure it’s wrong, either. I think what I find most appealing are the little details of family life and in the characters.

Erebus by Steve Jones (MrBF1V3)
Great story! I saw it coming before the blacksmith, but not by so much. This was very entertaining and an easy read (and it was a good tale told very short, for which you get extra kudos).

Morningstar v. Jehovah by Richard Dickson (DailyRich)
The interesting part of this story for me as a reader was hearing the arguments play out and wondering which way you were going to take it. I also enjoyed the characterizations.

Eye for an Eye by Venustar
This is a really intense piece. But I keep missing something in it. It seemed he already had a revenge in mind before he encountered the gentlemen. I’m not sure what they provided in exchange for his eye that was better than what he could have done on his own.

Choosing Direction at the Dead End by PeterWilliam
I was hooked from the first sentence, and you held my interest the entire way through. Good story. Although they could use more development (this is a longer story than what’s here) I saw real people in the characters.

Trey's Choice by Max S (RedRightHand)
I liked this one very much. The tension was great, the mystery about what was being hinted at and the imagery you created. I really liked the ending, too, despite having grown to like Trey. Part of me wanted him to discover that mystical thing beyond, but his murder at the hands of his friend and the religion he abandoned, was perfect.

Joe 2.0 by Rich Matrunick (Sterling13)
Entertaining piece. I’m afraid I had “Lenny and Carl” in my head through the whole thing, but whatever. I liked how you closed it, too. Anne’s a good woman for standing by him.
 
Congrats Nickee, well deserved.

For those who are interested, and for me because I like to get extra feedback, I've posted the second version of the story in the same thread as the origonal story. Let me know what you think.

B5
 

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