Last Argument of Kings by Joe Abercrombie

Finished it last night and boy was the ending depressing. I know Joe has always gone for the real life approach to the fantasy genre, but geezzz! Some great battle scenes and lots of twists, but a rather downbeat ending.

I did not think the ending was depressing, I think it was actually the best possible one given the setup, and much of it was clear to me once the new king was crowned. The last paragraph though came a little bit as a surprise, but I loved it :)
 
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A prime example of a world full of bitter, cynical, world-weary, Machiavellian...you probably see where I’m going?
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Mr. Abercrombie managed to become the most reviewed and talked about fantasy author on the internet chat rooms, blogs, review sites and other related web-pages since his debut effort “The Blade Itself” merely two years ago. I’ll go about this review in good faith that you are already familiar with his first two book in “The First Law” trilogy or that you’ve at least heard or read about Joe Abercrombie

Last Argument of Kings” is the third and final book of “The First Law” series; and what a majestic conclusion it is! The last third of the book is one of the crispiest, refreshing and mind-blowing endings I’ve been privileged to read…ever. But before the gist of this review, let me recap the story briefly (argumentably without much spoiler material).

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---Logen Ninefingers rejoins his friends in the bloody northern campaign set against Bethod – the self proclaimed King of Northmen, after the failed quest for “The Seed” he partook with Bayaz venturing into the furthest reaches of the World. Dogman, Thunderhead, Black Dow, Grim Harding and the rest of the stoic Northmen have some tough battles ahead of them and even hardest lessons to learn. The Union loses its king just before the impeding Gurkish invasion with Mamun, the first apprentice of Prophet Khalul, and his hundred Eaters at the fore. Jezal dan Luthar finds himself stretched between his affliction for Ardee West and his new acquired position. The misshapen Superior Glokta dan Sand has only his guile to keep his head from rolling of his shoulders while juggling several conflicting loyalties he finds himself trapped into. The good mentor Bayaz, First of the Magi, searches for every available means to stand against Mamun and his Eaters. Ferro’s heart remains set on vengeance and its not due to change soon. Last but not least, Major West finds himself in charge of the Union army in the North after the unfortunate demise of Lord Marshal Burr.
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This novel remains epic fantasy to its core, but what a delightfully twisted core it is. Expect the unexpected and bear this in mind – nobody turns out what he appeared to be in the beginning. There are some surprisingly torturous conversions and new revelations along the way, especially when concerning our main protagonists. Logen and the Northmen shine the brightest for the better part of the book. I have to admit that I found the happening in Adua uninteresting at times and some of the chapters concentrating on Jezal, Ferro, Bayaz and even Glokta surprisingly dull and repetitive. Glokta, my personal favorite, wearied me down with his constant and peevish whimpering which actually lost its humorous dark edge for a while. But this all changes drastically when Abercrombie starts to knot the loose threads together in a grand finale. This occurs when the gist of action moves from the North into Adua, where the final cards are played out. Glokta, I’m delighted to say, has some hidden aces up his crooked sleeve, so my irritation and fears were laid to a serene rest.

Last Argument of Kings” is not made of diamonds, but it can have its worth measured out in solid gold. If I had a few reservations about the book well into the second half of its length the ending chapters blew them all to dust. The plot is pretty straightforward and the writing quite brash in its simplicity, but that does not detract from novels worth as it gives Abercrombie ample opportunity to polish his other qualities and he succeeds at that with flying colors. I’ll say this though, if you found “The Blade Itself” or even “Before They Are Hanged” not to your liking then stay away from this one – in essence nothing really changes, it only brings gloss to what went before.


Mr. Abercrombie…Evil Fruitcake (our mascot) approves heartily.

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(4,5 out of five or a wand-length short of perfect - and we are talking a bout a smallish wand)
 
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I did not think the ending was depressing, I think it was actually the best possible one given the setup, and much of it was clear to me once the new king was crowned. The last paragraph though came a little bit as a surprise, but I loved it :)

I know, but I am an optimist and always hope for the best! The twist at the very end I didn't see coming. However, you never know what happened at the very end... a certain someone could well have survived.

I think the book and the series was amazing, Logen and Glokta are sure to become some of the most memorable characters in fantasy.
 
I know, but I am an optimist and always hope for the best! The twist at the very end I didn't see coming. However, you never know what happened at the very end... a certain someone could well have survived.

I think the book and the series was amazing, Logen and Glokta are sure to become some of the most memorable characters in fantasy.

To me the real cool thing about the last paragraph is that I've read it before :) I expect the result to be the same...
 
There are rules about putting reviews up on SFFWorld, which basically come down to posting a copy of the whole review on the forum is allowed whilst just a link to your blog isn't ;)
 
Full text of review (doh!)

Last Argument of Kings is the concluding part of Jo Abercrombie’s First Law Trilogy. Say one thing about Joe Abercrombie, say he puts a lot of twists and turns in the road, as the cast central characters continue their journeys of self-discovery, with varying degrees of ultimate success.

The list of shocks, revelations, and plot-twists is long, and if I was to describe any of them it would rather spoil the story. Abercrombie displays evidence of intricate plotting that nevertheless avoids being overcomplicated or hard to follow, and while some of the revelations are easy enough to see coming, you are still left wondering how something is going to be done, and when it will happen. Having brought Bayaz’s travelling party back to Adua at the conclusion of the second book, we open with two focuses: one on Adua, where Ferro, Logen and Luthar seek new purposes after the failure of their quest, and Glotka the crippled Inquisitor plays politics on behalf of his boss, the Arch-Lector Sult; the other in the North, where the Dogman and his Northmen are allied with the Union army against the forces of Bethod. Quickly, Logen rejoins his former comrades, and discovers that his determination to be a better man is going to be challenged by his own nature and his fearsome reputation as the Bloody-Nine.

As the book progresses, the action all converges on Adua and the story becomes a full-blown war novel, with all of the characters having their parts to play in the conflict. After the apocalyptic climax of the novel, Abercrombie takes plenty of time to follow the central characters and explore the situations they find themselves in. Sad to say, despite suggestions that the characters are on paths to some degree of redemption through their experiences and interactions with one another, by the end of the novel those chances seem to have been somewhat squandered. Ultimately, each character is a slave to their own nature and circumstances: Glotka is a sadist because of what was done to him; Logen and Ferro know only violence, and seem unwilling or unable to break the cycles or retribution in which they find themselves; the best man, West, endures perhaps the worst fate of all.

The recognition that traditional fantasy notions of ‘good’ and ‘bad’ are restrictive and irrelevant has underpinned this series since the start, so we should perhaps not be surprised that few of the central characters end up happy. Most of them have made bad choices or pursued vain hopes at some point.

‘It ain’t ever simple, is it, as a man is just good or bad? Not even you. Not even Bethod. Not anybody.’

‘No.’ Logen sat and watched the flames moving. ‘No, it ain’t ever that simple. We all got our reasons. Good men and bad men. It’s all a matter of where you stand.’​

If this all makes the book sound bleak and forbidding, then I should point out that this worldview is offset by a wry and knowing sense of humour, with the least likely character, cripple and torturer Sanda dan Glotka, providing the greatest number of smiles. Abercrombie shows he’s not afraid of making his readers laugh, and in one passage even appears to poke fun at the whole fantasy genre:

‘I’ve been trying to get through this damn book again.’ Ardee slapped at a heavy volume lying open, face down, on a chair.

‘The Fall of the Master Maker‘ muttered Glotka. ‘That rubbish? All magic and valour, no? I couldn’t get through the first one.’

‘I sympathise. I’m on to the third and it doesn’t get any easier. Too many damn wizards. I get them all mixed up with one another. It’s all battles and endless bloody journeys, here to there and back again. If I so much as glimpse another map I swear I’ll kill myself.’​

Such levity actually highlights the aspects of the author’s approach to fantasy that make it so refreshing: we don’t need a huge cast list of characters to refer to, and we can manage just fine without a map (though so accustomed am I to the tradition of having maps that I admit to pining for one every once in a while). Coupled with his direct writing style and strong characterisation, and his willingness to throw in a bit more sex and swearing than genre fans are accustomed to, it’s not hard to see the reasons for his success.

The title of the book, Last Argument of Kings, is taken from inscriptions on the cannons of King Louis XIV of France. It’s highly appropriate - many of the characters in this book are familiar with the notion of violence as the last (or sometimes first) resort. I hope that readers will consider turning to Abercrombie’s books as very much a first resort, a great advert for what fantasy can be.

Last Argument of Kings is published by Gollancz in the UK. This review originally posted at: http://bookgeeks.wordpress.com/2008...argument-of-kings-by-joe-abercrombie/#more-68
 
I ordered this from booksuppository 2 weeks ago. They never bothered to tell me they were out of stock and it hadn't shipped.

:(

Is it worth paying $30 extra for expedited shipping from angland?
 
I am not sure there are many books worth an extra $30 for, IMHO - maybe the new GRRM when it eventually appears...

Not to say it's not damn good, but in my experience there's always something else damn good to read in the meantime (have you read The Lies of Locke Lamora?
 
Well, I'm real glad everyone seems to be enjoying it. Your kind words bring a flicker of warmth to the withered husk I have in place of a heart.

Is it worth paying $30 extra for expedited shipping from angland?

I'd have to say no. It'll be just as good (or bad) in a couple of weeks time, and you'll have saved yourself $30. You could buy another copy with that, if you really wanted to, and like the man says, there's always something else worth reading.
 
I'd have to say no. It'll be just as good (or bad) in a couple of weeks time, and you'll have saved yourself $30. You could buy another copy with that, if you really wanted to, and like the man says, there's always something else worth reading.

These are noble words indeed from a working writer.
 
I am not sure there are many books worth an extra $30 for, IMHO - maybe the new GRRM when it eventually appears...

Not to say it's not damn good, but in my experience there's always something else damn good to read in the meantime (have you read The Lies of Locke Lamora?

I've read both lamora books. The red wolf conspiracy is what has me intrigued. It doesn't matter anyway, I have plenty of work to do that should kill time until the book arrives :( I ordered from amazon.com uk now. Wish I had done so in the first place. I can also finish Homo Politicus by Dana Milbanks. Not fiction but just as amusing!

And thanks for the honesty Mr. Abercrombie. I'm sure I'll enjoy the books just as much as the first two.
 
Joe,
I finished last week, and the book was wonderful. You kept it fresh, and ended in a way that was both fulfilling, yet not completely expected.

I can even see some hooks here for future stories should you chose. I'd love to see
Logan go find his woman.
Great character he is!

My only gripe was the paperback format! It does not match the prior two books, and the larger paperbacks just don't stay open properly for reading without cracking the spine.

But I know that is not in your control.

I can't wait to see what you are up to next! How about a hint????
 
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Richard: do you know about Best Served Cold?

Synopsis from Amazon:

Mercenaries are a wonderful thing: they fight as you tell them, whom you tell them, and when you tell them, for nothing more precious or complicated than money. And Monzcarro Mercatto, and her brother (and lover) Benna Mercatto, are the two most successful, most popular, and most wealthy mercenaries in Styria...but wealthy, popular mercenaries are not such a good thing. In fact they're a downright dangerous thing. Which is why Grand Duke Orso of Styria arranges to have them dealt with. Permanently. With hindsight, he may come to consider this a tactical error. Through sheer good luck - which her brother doesn't share - Monzcarro survives the long and fatal drop Orso arranged for her, and staggers away from her encounter with a ruined right hand, an opium addiction ...and a plan to come back with a fortune, plently of bladed weapons, and a single-minded determination to kill the seven men in the room when her brother was murdered. Preferably in as gruesome a manner as she can ...

So, same world: different story.

Mark / Hobbit
 
Agreed - Logen is the heart and soul of LAoK...but the best thing in my view is what happens to the characters at the end...couldn't do it better myself :D .

seriously, at one point everyone complains about predictability and when someone shoves it up their respective arses then they moan how they would wish for the things to happen differently...well not me.
 
Went off to Amazon.uk and ordered mine! Now just gotta wait a year :(
 
Went off to Amazon.uk and ordered mine!
Think you might have just made some writer-chap very happy... :D

(and pleased to spread the word....)

Mark / Hobbit
 
I'm intrigued by Best Served Cold, and I'm eager to read it. Hopefully The First Law was no fluke! ;P

Patrick
 
Richard: do you know about Best Served Cold?

Synopsis from Amazon:



So, same world: different story.

Mark / Hobbit

I must say, that sounds pretty cool. I'm not generally a fan of books with a female protagonist, but it has been done well a few times so I'm still open to it.
 

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