Looking for books without non-con.

[Skytteflickan88]

I'm on the hunt for a book with a strong heroin and a villian/hero(vampire, werewold, etcetc) who's trying to seduce the heroin. But...

I don't want the heroine to be asking to be turned or whatever just because she thinks it's be neat and I don't want the seducer to try to force her to do anything she doesn't want to do, but I want him to try very hard to seduce her. Just no rape-ish scenes at all.

Is there such a book? It just seems that all books out there who deals with heroine and a handsome werewolf/vampire, etcetc involves some kind of non-con or heroines who long to become creatures of the night themelves.

It's not that I don't like a little monster in my man(and a lot of sex please) but I couldn't even read past book 4 of Anita Blake because of the small amount of non-con from the seducer's (jean-Luc's) side, so I need something a bit nicer. But still hot.

Is there anything out there for me?

 

[wwfward]

Hmmm, if you can't find a book that fits yours description, maybe you should write your own story like it? Maybe other people would like to read the same thing or at least be open to reading it if its accepted by a publisher.

 

[ChrisW]

what's non con?

 

[Zedar]

I'm assuming from the context it means non-consensual.

 

[sic's mom]

Try Patricia Brigg's Mercy Thompsan series. Mercy is actually a shape changer that becomes a coyote and grew up in a werewolf pack. Also Kim Harrison's Hollows series. Rachel the lead character is a witch, has a relationship with a vamp in the series, but definately does not want to be bitten and turned. She is a strong main character and this is a series that just keeps getting better the further it goes.

 

[Rob B]

what's non con?

What he said.

 

[Skytteflickan88]

Yep, non-con means non-consensual as in sexual harrassment and rape.

Thanks for the advice, although since I'm not a good writer I'll just settle with reading those books. They sound interesting.

 

[Ravenwing]

completely off-topic, but, my swedish is very rusty - does your name mean 'shooting girl'? literaly translated...

 

[hippokrene]

Try Patricia Brigg's Mercy Thompsan series. Mercy is actually a shape changer that becomes a coyote and grew up in a werewolf pack. Also Kim Harrison's Hollows series. Rachel the lead character is a witch, has a relationship with a vamp in the series, but definately does not want to be bitten and turned. She is a strong main character and this is a series that just keeps getting better the further it goes.

Er, I like the series, but every book has Ivy 'vamping out,' pinning Rachel down, and attempting to drink her blood while Rachel thinks, "Oh no, I don't want this! ... okay, maybe a little. I mean, no!"

It seems very non-con to me.

 

[Bond]

I do not read these kinds of books but the description above is the kind that probably has men rolling their eyes when women talk about what they want from a man.

 

[Skytteflickan88]

completely off-topic, but, my swedish is very rusty - does your name mean 'shooting girl'? literaly translated...

Yes, or riflemangirl. But I meant for it to be saggittariousgirl, since I'm born in November and that's my sign.

skytten=sagittarious
skytt=shooter

Er, I like the series, but every book has Ivy 'vamping out,' pinning Rachel down, and attempting to drink her blood while Rachel thinks, "Oh no, I don't want this! ... okay, maybe a little. I mean, no!"

It seems very non-con to me.

Oh. Is sex included in that scenario or is he really hungry but later controls himself and apologizes? Or is he a total jerk?

I think I will read it anyway, and only put it down if she turns out to be a doormat.

 

[Hellions]

Oh. Is sex included in that scenario or is he really hungry but later controls himself and apologizes? Or is he a total jerk?

I think I will read it anyway, and only put it down if she turns out to be a doormat.

To clarify, Ivy is also a woman.

I have only read the first book in the series (Dead Witch Walking) so I can't speak on further developments. However, the tension was interesting as I recall.

 

[Skytteflickan88]

A lesbian vamp? Now I have to read it.

 

[hippokrene]

Oh. Is sex included in that scenario or is he really hungry but later controls himself and apologizes? Or is he a total jerk?

In the Hollows, living vampires have a number of predatory and territorial instincts that humans and witches lack. Rachel begins the series somewhat ignorant and entirely reckless. The two are roommates and the question of Ivy’s control/lack of control vs Rachel’s goading her/acting in a normal, human manner can be a contentious one.

I could give you my opinion, but it’s based on the entire series and to explain myself I’d have to give you spoilers.

I think I will read it anyway, and only put it down if she turns out to be a doormat.

Rachel isn’t a doormat.

A lesbian vamp? Now I have to read it.

Ivy isn’t a lesbian, but the scenes are homoerotic. Provided you're comfortable with the Ivy/Rachel interactions, I think you'll like the Rachel Morrigan series.

 

[Takachulo]

Ivy isn’t a lesbian, but the scenes are homoerotic.

Ivy is certainly in love with Rachel. My memory is that she is bi, but leaning lesbian pretty heavily.

I can also recommend the Mercy Thompson series. However in the latest book (Iron Kissed) there is a pretty nasty rape. It is not done by one of the main characters, but you should still be aware of it since it seems like it may be a problem for you.

 

[hippokrene]

Takachulo,

1) I don't think that's certain. Ivy ranges from normal to bitchy to psychotic depending on the flavor of tea the author has that day. I see this as yet another abusive relationship being passed off as sexy!dangerous because one of the participants is a vampire/werewolf

2) Yes, Ivy is bisexual. I don’t think she leans one way or the other. If you read the short story in ‘Dates from Hell,’ which is from Ivy’s viewpoint, you wouldn’t even known she’s interested in women, but she does get all hot and heavy for the guys.

 

[Skytteflickan88]

Ivy is certainly in love with Rachel. My memory is that she is bi, but leaning lesbian pretty heavily.

I can also recommend the Mercy Thompson series. However in the latest book (Iron Kissed) there is a pretty nasty rape. It is not done by one of the main characters, but you should still be aware of it since it seems like it may be a problem for you.

I just don't want to read a book where a rapist/harrasser is portrayed as the hero and the harrassed woman/man falls in love with the harrasser. The rape isn't glorified is it, it's portrayed as a bad thing?

I have nothing against depressing and horrible elements in my books, but I want them to be portrayed in a fair light. Not to say that there aren't relationships out there in the world where rapists and their victims live "happily ever after", I just don't want to read about it. Not exactly a ideal relationship.

So as long as the rape isn't written as a good thing, I'm okay with it. Worse case senario, I'll write fanfiction, "fixing" the book.

 

[Amaunette]

I don't read a lot in this genre, but I might be able to recommend Robin McKinley's "Sunshine." Not much sex in it, but I'm not sure there's much coercion either.

 

[Takachulo]

The rape isn't glorified is it, it's portrayed as a bad thing?

Absolutely. The rapist is the main bad guy.

 

[KatG]

Well, no, I don't think Sunshine will do the task entirely. It's a really interesting vampire novel, one of the better ones I've read in recent years. But there is one violent sex scene between the protagonist and the main vampire. It's consensual, but it may be the sort of thing the original poster doesn't want. Other than that scene, it would be a good fit.